Racism

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[–]Musky 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Technically that would be "dragging discussion down to lower levels of the pyramid", but I think that rule is not really being enforced recently:

The wording was changed. Originally it read something along the lines of users should aspire to the top 3 levels of the "Pyramid of Debate," 4 wasn't great, and anything below was frowned upon until you get to advocating violence, which is still outright forbidden. Dragging the discussion downwards the pyramid was a rule violation. I mean, at all. If someone gave a well thought out and reasoned reply, calling them a name would be a rule violation.

Now the rule reads "People who are consistently dragging discussion down to lower levels of the pyramid are not welcome here." It's a subtle difference, but now calling someone a stupid cunt for the hell of it is not necessarily a rule violation, no matter what they posted, as long as you aren't consistently doing it. Amd if their post was low on the pyramid to begin with, you aren't dragging it down by responding in kind.

Which... kinda makes the pyramid of debate pointless now. Nobody hardly mentions the pyramid at all because violating the pyramid is difficult to do unless a person were deliberately trolling.

[–]Death_By_Democracy[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Interesting, and not great... I don't really understand the rationale behind just letting abusers and trolls run free of any consequences. I totally get the need to allow free speech - that's essential. But where's the value in allowing abuse to be given a free pass? Why would I want to be anywhere where someone can call me a stupid cunt and it's OK?

[–]Musky 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't really understand the rationale behind just letting abusers and trolls run free of any consequences. I totally get the need to allow free speech - that's essential.

Bro.... You were banned on Reddit because someone judged what you said to be detrimental to the overall conversation, and you wheel over here and want that recreated.

abusers and trolls

It's a small community here and everyone offers something in their own way that forms the gestalt of Saidit. It isn't a sea of anonymous randos like Reddit where you can axe individuals indiscriminately and be assured some warm body or bot will fill their place. People here simply aren't as disposable. I can probably tell you a little something about nearly ever user on this site, you get to know them a little and have an idea where they stand, seeing the same names day in and day out. It's nice. It's an actual community.

[–]Death_By_Democracy[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

LOL - you can't see the difference between 'someone having an opinion you don't like' and 'someone else calling you a cunt'? They are not the same thing.

It's a small community for sure. I suspect it will remain that way too.

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Someone thinking you're a cunt is them having an opinion you don't like tho.

It's a small community for sure. I suspect it will remain that way too.

Good, wouldn't want this place becoming another Reddit.

[–]Death_By_Democracy[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't mind someone thinking I am a cunt. The problem is that some people here think it is OK to abuse others, full stop. And they get away with it because 'it's just words' or 'its just an opinion'.

Like you, I don't want this place to turn into Reddit. But I don't really want to see it becoming a noxious and poisonous place that no-one can be bothered with either (apart from the small number like yourself who don't mind a bit of poison served with their social media experience), and its well on the way to becoming just that.