I banned an alt of his because he posted hardcore porn on it (and that's all it had other than spam/troll posts). I did not know whose it was, I simply moderated the porn like I always do. But he's accusing me of singling him out because I don't always ban the spam bots (which is because I've already tried, they have a million spare accounts and losing one of them is no loss).
If you don't ban the spam accounts, but choose to ban porn, when both are against the rules, you are in fact singling people out
I remove both types of content. However, banning sometimes helps in combatting porn, but rarely spam.
[deleted] 9 months ago ago
Who is Dr Raccoon.
Phooey.
That’s what I thought. I diddnt realize there was a wrath side.
This sucks. Phooy is crazy funny to me, but Vulptex has always been good to me.
I think everyone is over it now.
Unused alt. Faggots gonna fag.
they do burn, or will burn
Heck, they still go up in flames in the UK. People be asking, can you spare a faggot, mate?
Jokes on them, faggots cannot mate!
What we learned about the 88 (IronLeft?) group 2 years ago is that they were banned so often (username & IP & posts) that they eventually gave up.
I thought they left when M7 went on hiatus.
[deleted] 9 months ago ago
He found himself in lonely circumstances.
His actions were/are understandable.
Out of curiosity were you on reddit a long time? This was literally the first step to them becoming the over censoring entity they are now.
It went:
Spam
"Spam"
Child Porn
Most porn
Copyrighted material
"Copyrighted material"
Dangerous Misinformation
Dangerous "Misinformation"
Right wing anything
"Right" wing ANYTHING
As much as I agree the spam is an issue, we have to be very cautious about how we proceed from here. I know this is a slippery slope argument, but that really doesn't mean that it's wrong. It's kind of a genie in the bottle issue, what constitutes spam or a bannable/censorable post will always be rather subjective, and the second mods start banning anything, others will demand more and more be banned/censored. Soon you have a site that isn't a free speech platform again if you are not very VERY selective about what gets banned.
Also it's really not that much spam. It's bad sure, but it's a lot better to just ignore them at this level and make a cautious attempt to ban them as they appear.
This is ridiculous.
Reddit is basically now a porn site with an overly large comment section.
The idea they ever banned porn is nonsense.
Saying a man is a man will get you banned faster than posting a fanny ever will.
I guess you weren't there during the Ellen Pao years.
That was literally her objective. They removed like half the porn subs. Then when they brought Huffman back he rolled those back, but the decision to begin censoring had already been made.
If you noticed it was at this point that reddit and the entire internet started switching from free porn posted anonymously everywhere to mostly free porn existing as advertising for onlyfans style content.
You heard it here, everyone. Don't remove spam, CP, or porn. That's subjective, and removing them is a slippery slope to banning everything else.
For the record, I agree with you on the biased censorship path Reddit went down. I agree with the progression you're sharing. However, I think they did it because they were degenerate sick assholes all along, and so were thousands of users. They were protecting themselves, not free expression.
Reddit and their CP-addicted fucks manipulated the site into the "slippery slope", while pretending it didn't exist and encouraging normies to hide their intentions. Reddit doesn't care about copyrights, they have lawyers. They don't care about "misinformation", they tell people what is factual because of the mockingbird journalists in media. They don't care about right-wing, they have manipulated the users into believing far-left-wing is real.
Ignoring the first things in your list appearing on SaidIt - spam, CP, and general porn - guarantees this site becomes the same. THAT is the slippery slope. Porn and spam is NOT subjective, and anyone who believes otherwise is a grifting astroturfer.
Be cautious, and don't block - report, call it out, and rid us of it.
Let the Admins know so they can strike the hammer down hard. Ignoring it with blocking is willful obliviousness, and that makes you part of the problem.
"banning cp is a slippery slope"
[deleted] 9 months ago ago
grody! To the max
That is retarded logic.
Wait, hang on... We can't do porn here? :O
[deleted] 9 months ago ago
Which part isn't true?
The furry and pedo accusations. I am indeed a tranny.
The pedophile claim.
And the furry claim
Then why do you have fox ears?
Because I'm a fox?
That's on a different post.
That we know of.
He banned one of my accounts for rule-breaking, yet refuses to enforce the rules on the bone conduction spammer. That is not acceptable, and he refuses to change this policy. He needs to enforce the rules equitably
Normal user bans don't work on spam bots. It ends up being better to just remove all their posts on sight. If saidit had a few better tools things would be different, but for now I'm stuck doing it this way.
Shadowban the bots instead of perma-banning.
Let them post into the void/oblivion and not realize they are invisible.
If or when SaidIt gets better tools to investigate and deal with bots, then perma-bans can be a thing.
There's no frontend available to do that. I made one a while ago, but I don't have the power to actually apply it.
I don't care if you think it is 'better' to choose to enforce the rules on me but not the spammer, that is seriously fucked up. Your job is to enforce the fucking rules. Do it fairly or we are going to have a fucking problem
These bots aren't actual people who can benefit from "unfair rules". This is worse for them.
If it makes you feel any better, I often do ban spam accounts if I haven't seen that spammer before, or if the username is their product's name or company (so they lose that name). In fact that alt account of yours partly falls into the "spammer I haven't seen before" category.
I will feel better when anyone who breaks the rules has the same consequences. I will not stand for you selectively enforcing the rules on me
These aren't people. They're algorithms.
The same rules apply to them. But there's no one-size-fits-all solution. You have to combat different things in the way that works best for them.
Point me to some spammers and I'll ban them (if they are indeed spammers, ofc). But they'll have new accounts ready in plenty of time.
Point me to some spammers and I'll ban them (if they are indeed spammers, ofc). But they'll have new accounts ready in plenty of time.
This is what I am asking for, that they get a ban if I am subject to a ban. Also its not as simple as creating a new account, when you banned me I was denied by cloudflare while on this account which isnt banned (I used this browser to post the porn), and is using browser fingerprinting, because changing my VPN did not solve it, but changing the browser did
I did not fingerprint you. I only banned that one account.
Out of curiosity, is automod not a thing on saidit as it is on the reddit unforked source?
why not fight algorithms with algorithms?
sometimes if you log in and out really fast you get automatically temp banned by cloudflare
No one cares about your drama. Also there’s no reason to have more than one account on here. There’s no porn.
Quit your bitchin
Theres no spam either, yet he wont ban them
Nobody cares, dude.
What? Lol fucking seriousky?
I didn't expect a fucking Saidit having a troon moderator.
Oh come on, don't act like you haven't seen me before
🤔?
Oh, but......I didn't? At least I don't remember.
Haha you made the 69th comment!
Anyway you can remember me like this: https://i.imgur.com/5l1rNyT.png
Loooooooool x------d god damn it, I almost chocked on my lemon tea
I never saw that pic before Thanks, it will gonna go straight into my cringe folder 😏📸
How is it cringe?
I hope it's just rhetorical question.
If you want to see some real cringe:
No, I don't see what's so cringe about an image of me wearing shades. Is it the fact that it's unfinished?
It's kind of shitly drawn, lol
Well I told you it's not finished.
Mentally deranged pervert. Cure yourself with a short rope.
Drracoon is right niggas there is a tranny conspiracy afoot and it's a nigger tranny not one of those thick and submissive white femboy trannies
Whoever you're talking about, it isn't me.
schizophrenia is based
Good question, it makes no sense.
If that's true, mad respect. If his skin is this thick, that's the kind of moderator we should all want.
It's me. Hi. Although I am not actually a furry.
But you are a tranny? If so, how in the world do you resist the urge to just ban all of us?
I don't have any urge to ban all of you
😮
Poopular dement... err... demand; whichever, it's definitely poopular. The poople have spoken.
Um what? Who are you referring to?
Me
Is reporting the spam posts helpful?
Yes
I will keep reporting them when I see them. Thanks!
What’s your handle over on the main Reddit site?
Oh and can you ban the sneako guy? He’s using racial and trans slurs.
I was u/CrystalVulpine, u/AwwFoxes, and u/vu1ptex.
I don't believe slurs are against the rules here.
I see many explanations about bans, but no denying the moderator is a furry tranny schizo. Hm.
I may be a tranny schizo, but I am NOT a furry!
You are not and will never be a woman, you gross pornsick degenerate faggot.
You have penis, you are MALE. He/him pronouns. Real women doesn't have penises.
And I'm not telling you this to insult you, it's just for your own sake.
That's the only person who removes spam here. I can't believe how shitty some of y'all are treating him.
Now I get it why Voat calls this its gay version.
The guys on voat call it like they see it, but they are SO ANGRY all the fucking time!
Its a lot of fun, I agree.
If you were, would that make you a transfurr?
I guess lol
Say whaa..?
Hi!
I do hate furries, that's for sure. But if they don't fuck with me, the furry is free to fuck all the foxes he/she/they/it wants to. I'm just here to shitpost in peace.
I'm not a furry.
Drewski |36 pointswritten 9 months ago ago
Why are you spamming all this defamatory crap?