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[–]Musky 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

We're using Ukraine as mercenaries. It's not a bad strategy. It'd be more dangerous, having nuclear powers duke it out, and more expensive if we fought ourselves.

I don't like the price tag either, but how much would it cost for you to sell your nation as cannon fodder? I get why the price is high even though I think we could have got them to do it for half as much.

As for society collapsing, I worry about that too. People are so readily controlled these days, they always were, but social media makes it so much more effective. The problem is I don't think the people in charge of mass opinion have reasonable goals. I think there's far too many interested in ultimately hedonistic goals, namely having their kinks accepted by society. I am reminded of the fall of Rome.

[–]Alphix 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

So you honestly believe the Russians are the bad guys in this conflict? Asking for a friend.

[–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think Russia is the "bad guy," if we were Russia we'd be doing the same thing, trying to rebuild our shattered union and resenting the interference of another nation.

Russia's interests are not our interests, however -- I mean the US, but I reckon what's good for the US is good for Canada too in a general sense. The USSR was a problem for the US, right up until they collapsed, and we don't want them rebuilding the capacity to have as much geopolitical influence as they once did.

Fucking with Ukraine's government to basically set them up to be our unwitting mercs is some cold blooded shit. I think if anyone is the bad guy here, it's the US, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't do exactly what we're doing it. It's pretty smart and most likely saves lives in the long run.