Why do we pretend women are good at programming, science, and engineering?

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[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

Yes white and asian men are statistically overrepresented. More men are good at this than women, but I know some women who are good at this too. I just want the best people to have the jobs, I really dont care what genitals they have in their pants, if thats 80% men, so be it, but I wouldnt replace the 20% of women that are good with men that are worse, any more than I'd replace the men with women that are worse to make it a 50-50 split.

Best engineers should get the jobs, period, fuck all this identity politics bullshit

[–]sneako[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Women ruin the vibe of any workplace. They turn everything into a political circus.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

You obviously have no real life experience if you think this.

While women might bitch mem will go full Game of Thrones on other men in the workplace, often attacking guys who consider them friends.

[–]sneako[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

normies maybe

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've worked places with a few women, and places with all men (I do software, not many women), didn't notice much difference in the dynamics.

The worst place I worked was as a data scientist at Yahoo! and it was all men - my team was 18 Indian men (All on visas, and culturally very Indian), 1 Chinaman, and me (a white guy). I don't have anything against Indian people, but going to work was like walking into little Hyerabad, there was a whole like secret caste system among them, and office politics I didn't understand. They even served special Indian meals, and special Indian beers for office parties. Just felt really out of place there, and didn't have much in common with them

[–]sneako[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

If you got a job would you mind lending a nigga some crypto?

[–]Yin 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

80% men

It's more like 99.9% men for important software and 99.999% men for mission critical applications. Maybe that's being generous to women. I would guess it's somewhere between 1 in 1000 and 1 in 100,000 for a woman (not a diversity hire) who's capable of entering the most serious forms of software engineering. The general stats on "coding" of course are meaningless because it's mostly comprised of normies doing trivial normie things.

And in the general stat it seems like most programmers marked "woman" are trannies which doesn't count.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

I'm the only person I know of who does this out of genuine interest. Some have a mild interest, but still mainly work in it to get their paycheck. Of course this isn't usually something women are expected to do, so they never end up filling those roles.

[–]Yin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Yeah, but they're not expected to fill those roles (by sane people) because exponentially fewer women are capable (having the necessary forms of intelligence) in the first place, compared to the few men who are capable. Ability greatly precedes interest.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

No, ability greatly precedes interest, but women almost always have more abilities than men because nature sucks. The real reason women aren't expected to fill these roles is because male expendability and the women are wonderful effect together make us think men should always be providing for women, and that if a man needs help he's a failure and a blight to mankind, but if a woman has to lift a finger men aren't treating her chivalrously enough.

[–]Yin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Men, on average but especially at the extreme highs which is what births civilizations, are vastly more mentally and physically capable.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

lol no, women are just never expected to do that. Plus building civilizations depends mostly on strength and power, especially in older times.

[–]Yin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Civilizations depend on intelligence and strength. Men excel at both. And the rest of it is the thousands of other genetic factors that go into forms of culture that transpire and whether that civilization will find ways to reward the conditions that allow it to survive. Women generally are inferior judges of protecting civilizations and should never have been given a "vote" over anything having to do with national security or prominent cultural inflictions. Feminized societies are more likely to devolve into anti-national, subversive societies that allow "barbarian in the gate". In the instances where tribes conquer other tribes, it's often more women who get to live and persist their lineage while more of the men are slaughtered.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Men do not excel at intelligence. Most are extremely stupid. So are most women, although more mature. All any of them care about, and the way you talk clearly indicates that you are one of them, is this stupid, utterly pointless, and outright evil of game of life. Who can be the most powerful, who can have the most sex, who can torture and slaughter the most people, who can have the most offspring. If you think this is good you are thoroughly brainwashed, because it is hellish.

/s/The_Matrix

[–]Yin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

You are brainwashed. You keep spouting bullshit fake "equality" narratives.

There are more men who have high IQs than there are women. This rate goes up exponentially the higher in IQ you go.

Hence, for example, almost no women can compete against men in chess. Only 1 woman is in the Top 100 and she's in the 90s ranks. Hence, every higher technological innovation is born from men and it's not because of oppression. Men have the brains capable of seeing metals and minderals in the rocks and then turning them into the computer you're now using, standing on the shoulders of giant brains, and very importantly the compulsion to follow through with those forms of labor to get there.

We may still be living in caves and trees without fire if human-hominoids were exclusively running on female brains.

That's life. I didn't create this world. I report on it.