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[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

This is an engineered, complex situation with no easy answer. Here's where I stand:

After the USSR was dismantled, there was an agreement that NATO would "not move one inch East" from where it was. It moved East by about 1,000 miles.

NATO countries can host Western Nuclear weapons aimed at Russia. NATO was formed as an anti-Russian alliance, so that should come as no surprise that hosting nukes and bases with the express purpose of waging war on Russia is part of the deal.

NATO has been wooing Zelensky, a U.S. puppet to, short of joining NATO, becoming a very NATO friendly state. They're doing the same with Sweden and Finland.

What are the Russians to do? Let the West fully encircle them with bases and nukes at such a short distance that the West could get first strike? Let's remember OPERATION UNTHINKABLE, the 1945 blueprint for WW3, where the plan called for nuking > 60 USSR cities.

So is Putin supposed to just "take it like a man" and accept that Russia become a sheet of radioactive glass? This current situation in the Ukraine gave him ZERO options other than a military operation. It is only logical. It is NECESSARY from a Russian perspective. On top of that, the Ukrainian government and military have been bombing the ethnic Russians of Eastern Ukraine for 8 years.

So OBVIOUSLY Putin was going to intervene. How could he not? Do I "support" it? Let's say it's logical, but we've only looked at one part of the puzzle.

Another part is the Baalist death cult running the world. They complain that traditional warfare is a "poor way to get rid of useless eaters" (and please Baal). The scamdemic and clot shot? Maybe, maybe not. The "results" seem to underwhelm these raving maniacs. But nukes... Nukes just might do the trick, right?

So these shitheads are behind the deep state in every developed nation. One of their sub-committees is Klaus Schwab's World Economic Forum, but there are many more. They have hands in all the cookie jars, and fingers on every button.

So they've obviously orchestrated this situation to come at a time when the USA is undergoing financial, economic, social and monetary collapse. This situation appears aimed at justifying a nuclear attack by Vladimir Putin on the West. As to whether this individual is part of the plan or not, I do not know, and in fact, IT DOES NOT MATTER.

The West is maneuvering Putin into a corner where his nuclear option is HIS ONLY OPTION. The clouds of bomber drones released from the SpaceX "Starlink" satellites have wrecked huge amounts of Russian military hardware. Ukraine didn't do this. NATO did this.

So WW3 is effectively ongoing as I write this. NATO has attacked Russia, and not just on Ukrainian soil, there were some such attacks on Russian soil as well.

Now of course these demonic shitheads controlling most governments absolutely HATE the USA, its constitution and MOST OF ALL its citizen's love of freedom. That is something they simply can't tolerate. So goading Putin, or acting like they are goading him, if he's in on this whole charade, into nuking the West plays perfectly well to the plans of the Baalist lunatics bent on offering billions of human deaths to their god.

In conclusion, I feel it's only a matter of time before Putin tries to nuke the West. Maybe not much time. He'll launch, and the missiles will reach their destination. Will the nukes detonate? I don't fucking know!

What is there to approve or disapprove of? I disapprove of the whole demonic plan, obviously. Do I understand Putin's situation as having zero other options? Absolutely. And I'm in the West. I don't really want to get nuked. I mean, I don't mind THAT much personally, but I stand against nuking people on a simple humanist basis. And I especially abhor demons and their plans.

But I support Russia's right to defend themselves, and the behavior of their troops has been a stellar example of minimized collateral warfare, with them opening humanitarian corridors, feeding and protecting civilians, all the while Zelensky is bombing them, and Azov are shooting civilians for fun. This is a very admirable conduct of warfare, especially given how NATO have made this operation prohibitively expensive for Russia.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I'll read this as a 'yes'. Perhaps I should offer a response:

This is an engineered, complex situation with no easy answer. Here's where I stand:

I don't think the question about Putin's approaches is complex.

After the USSR was dismantled, there was an agreement that NATO would "not move one inch East" from where it was. It moved East by about 1,000 miles.

Look again - the agreement was that Russia would protext Ukraine - which is now being destroyed by Russia. Ukraine is NOT part of NATO, and there are still no agreements for this. It's moot, and not a reason to invade.

NATO countries can host Western Nuclear weapons aimed at Russia. NATO was formed as an anti-Russian alliance, so that should come as no surprise that hosting nukes and bases with the express purpose of waging war on Russia is part of the deal.

Again - LOOK at the agreement - Ukraine disarmamament meant that Russia agreed to defend Ukrain from all attacks, an agreement it BROKE in 2014.

NATO has been wooing Zelensky, a U.S. puppet to, short of joining NATO, becoming a very NATO friendly state. They're doing the same with Sweden and Finland.

Rumors are NOT a reason to murder 1000s of innocent civilians and destoy a country.

What are the Russians to do? Let the West fully encircle them with bases and nukes at such a short distance that the West could get first strike? Let's remember OPERATION UNTHINKABLE, the 1945 blueprint for WW3, where the plan called for nuking > 60 USSR cities.

Ukraine is NOT part of NATO or the EU. Russians were NOT provoked. Russians were to do NOTHING. Moreover, there is the nuclear capability by Russia's enemies to completely torch the country several times over, without putting any weapons near the border. Russia doesn't need Ukraine as a buffer.

So is Putin supposed to just "take it like a man" and accept that Russia become a sheet of radioactive glass? This current situation in the Ukraine gave him ZERO options other than a military operation. It is only logical. It is NECESSARY from a Russian perspective. On top of that, the Ukrainian government and military have been bombing the ethnic Russians of Eastern Ukraine for 8 years.

Absolutely nothing happened to Putin. That's the problem. There was nothing to "take".

So OBVIOUSLY Putin was going to intervene. How could he not? Do I "support" it? Let's say it's logical, but we've only looked at one part of the puzzle.

He could 'not' by not attacking Ukraine.

Another part is the Baalist death cult running the world. They complain that traditional warfare is a "poor way to get rid of useless eaters" (and please Baal). The scamdemic and clot shot? Maybe, maybe not. The "results" seem to underwhelm these raving maniacs. But nukes... Nukes just might do the trick, right?

No....

So these shitheads are behind the deep state in every developed nation. One of their sub-committees is Klaus Schwab's World Economic Forum, but there are many more. They have hands in all the cookie jars, and fingers on every button.

No.

So they've obviously orchestrated this situation to come at a time when the USA is undergoing financial, economic, social and monetary collapse. This situation appears aimed at justifying a nuclear attack by Vladimir Putin on the West. As to whether this individual is part of the plan or not, I do not know, and in fact, IT DOES NOT MATTER.

Nope.

The West is maneuvering Putin into a corner where his nuclear option is HIS ONLY OPTION. The clouds of bomber drones released from the SpaceX "Starlink" satellites have wrecked huge amounts of Russian military hardware. Ukraine didn't do this. NATO did this.

Unrelated.

So WW3 is effectively ongoing as I write this. NATO has attacked Russia, and not just on Ukrainian soil, there were some such attacks on Russian soil as well.

Nope.

Now of course these demonic shitheads controlling most governments absolutely HATE the USA, its constitution and MOST OF ALL its citizen's love of freedom. That is something they simply can't tolerate. So goading Putin, or acting like they are goading him, if he's in on this whole charade, into nuking the West plays perfectly well to the plans of the Baalist lunatics bent on offering billions of human deaths to their god.

Unrelated.

In conclusion, I feel it's only a matter of time before Putin tries to nuke the West. Maybe not much time. He'll launch, and the missiles will reach their destination. Will the nukes detonate? I don't fucking know!

Possibly.

What is there to approve or disapprove of? I disapprove of the whole demonic plan, obviously. Do I understand Putin's situation as having zero other options? Absolutely. And I'm in the West. I don't really want to get nuked. I mean, I don't mind THAT much personally, but I stand against nuking people on a simple humanist basis. And I especially abhor demons and their plans.

Invading an innocent country is NOT an option. Your saying that it was an option indicates that your answer to the survey is 'yes'.

But I support Russia's right to defend themselves, and the behavior of their troops has been a stellar example of minimized collateral warfare, with them opening humanitarian corridors, feeding and protecting civilians, all the while Zelensky is bombing them, and Azov are shooting civilians for fun. This is a very admirable conduct of warfare, especially given how NATO have made this operation prohibitively expensive for Russia.

There was absolutely nothing for Russia to defend themselves against.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 7 fun7 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you for demonstrating yet again that you are not worth replying to. Welcome to my ignore list, it's been way too long.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Am I not allowed to disagree?