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[–]Antarchomachus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thank you for the explanation, I completely understand what you are saying now. No matter what a person does, it doesn't give you a right to treat them like a sub-human, totally agree. Also agree that most of the historical tyrants seem to justify their actions in this way.

You make a very strong case that this is just as bad as greed, if not worse.

Again, thanks for taking the time to explain your position, I wasn't really thinking of lack of freedom, domination and dehumanization as specifically being caused by Pride, but you are absolutely right.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Welcome man. I’m always happy to talk. You make a good point about pedofiles, or maybe murders. Maybe they are not sub human. But sometimes you have to take a human out of society because they are a danger to others.

[–]Antarchomachus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What you said about dehumanizing really resonated with me. I remember reading about some of the Guantanamo prisoners were force fed anally as some sort of punishment. I don't care how bad some terrorist is, that is fucking disgusting and monstrously dehumanizing, and you are right that feeling 'better' than someone is the only way something like this could happen.

Honestly, I have often felt morally superior to people who do terrible things, and I didn't really see the danger in this, but I think I was lying to myself. I personally don't think I could ever be monster like some of our historical tyrants, are the Guantanamo guards, but I'll admit that I have wished vaccine injuries on people who have mocked me for remaining unvaccinated (maybe more like Wrath, but I think Wrath may often come from a place of Pride as you say), and see that justifying this type of thinking is a slippery and dangerous slope.

Always a good discussion when you are forced to more carefully examine your beliefs, appreciate you taking the time to converse with me