SaidIt Survey: Ban /u/socks and /u/ActuallyNot or keep them around?

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[–]FlippyKing 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

I'm not disagreeing with you. But I have to say, saidit has been much more enjoyable after blocking the obvious trolls and those who always argue in bad faith. Banning them lets them know they've been banned and the will just create a new account, or accounts. The cure might be worse than the disease, like coronavirus.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (7 children)

This is about more than just my comfort. Among many reasons, this is also about not alienating new users who are truth-seekers and free-thinkers but don't give a shit about trolling culture found anywhere else. For example, it seems like Popper was trying to fuck up my efforts to bring my real-life Windsor resistance friends to this platform.

Other users have been banned an not returned. Maybe they deserved it maybe they didn't. Certainly most of them did. If and when they return, it's obvious who the real trouble makers are as they tend to let loose. Some have quietly returned and been civil, because they never really deserved it. If we did ban socks and ActuallyNot and they did return we might see their true essence, if it wasn't already obvious.

[–]FlippyKing 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I want to stress that I agree with you on the banning. So, what next? What if they don't ban them or what if they come back? Maybe moderators of subs could ban them and put in their side bar the pro-tip of blocking them for a better user experience, or at least remind people of that option in the side bar.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I had to ban Poopper from /u/StandUpWindsor for a better user experience. Too late after the asstroll shit all over my post. Maybe we'll all have to have private subs for our projects if the rules can't be enforced.

With no rules I expect this place to slide to shit. I hope it doesn't. If it does my hesitancy to recommend it to other aware folks will increase.

I have a huge list of stuff I aim to do, locally and online, including start up a new video channel. So I'm going to pull way back anyway.

I totally fucked up with this post. It's my fault that I wasn't completely clear that this was about perpetually breaking the rules without consequences - NOT the fact that they are liars, authoritarians, and shills. Getting them banned is killing 2 birds with 1 stone. Instead they use censorship victimhood as a shield and suckers buy it.

[–]FlippyKing 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I don't think you fucked up with this post. I think you are just being honest and expressing genuine things. I think you are one of the best parts of this place and I would be OK with banning a thousand socks and other trolls if it meant your content and your ideas grew and developed more clearly as a result.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Aw, shucks. Saved (for my ego, until the swelling goes down).

FYI: You're one of the good ones too. I'd add you to my friends list but you were already there a while ago. (I like to read the friends names in red first to see what kind of conversations are going on under posts.)

[–]FlippyKing 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Cool! I did not know there was a friends thing here. I will check that out.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Go to any user's page and add/remove them or in here:
https://saidit.net/prefs/friends/

Then you can see only their posts or comments under:
https://saidit.net/s/friends/

And their name shows up red in conversations in dark mode. In light mode there's not much difference.

/u/d3rr, two recommendations, if it's not a chore:

  1. Differentiate "friends" in light mode.
  2. Add a third tab under /s/friends/ that links back to prefs.

If you're going to do either of those lemme know, and if not soon I can draft up a public service announcement to share info about this friends feature, and add it to the FAQ. Am I forgetting anything?

[–]FlippyKing 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Excellent, said-it friend!