People trying to erase the phrase “Chinese New Year” (self.aznidentity)

submitted 19 hours ago by One-Confusion-2090

[–]toskaqe -6 points 9 hours ago De-sinicization complaints are valid and understandably offensive when forced onto actual chinese people themselves, but in this case paying lip service and switching over to the more capitalism-friendly term when speaking to a non-chinese audience is not a big loss. It doesn't affect how people actually celebrate it. Chinese New Year is an oddity among foreign holidays. Even foreign national independence days get reduced to Cinco de Mayo or Bastille day. CNY's odd naming convention might come from the tradition to translate Chinese things semantically. But the name doesn't really matter, it's just a unique identifier. Hallow's eve and Christ mass have long diverged from their actual meanings, so getting hung up on calendar correctness is fighting gravity. The bottom line is, there is a demand for an inclusive umbrella term among English speaking audiences. It might be obvious to SEA to attribute it to the chinese and to otherize it as a foreign concept, but western countries are tertiary consumers. Something universally popular is bound to be de-nationalized sooner or later, regardless of sinophobia. In another few hundred years, if kimchi becomes incorporated and nativized in a bunch of other country's cuisines, no one will think of it as korean, it'll just be another "thing" like soy sauce. That's just how it is. Being a hyper-visible plurality on a pan-asian sub requires chinese folks to be magnanimous.

[–]Tasty-meatball 5 points 4 hours ago

capitalism-friendly term when speaking to a non-chinese audience is not a big loss. It doesn't affect how people actually celebrate it.

The demand they make is that a 'Chinese holiday' can not have the word Chinese in it. That an unreasonable and racist demand. Clearly. Chinese new year has activities which are specific to the Chinese tradition. Korean New year and Vietnamese New year have their own set of activities only done by them. In addition, the duration can be different depending on which nation's New year, and the days when it starts can be different. It's racism towards Chinese to say Chinese can't title it "Chinese new year" for their own holiday. It's racist 'yellow peril vibes' to assume Chinese are trying to take the Lunar holidays over. It has nothing to do with capitalism-friendly naming, which I am not sure what that entails as it's for the Chinese Diaspora.

CNY's odd naming convention might come from the tradition to translate Chinese things semantically. But the name doesn't really matter, it's just a unique identifier.

The demand that only white people(it's true) are making to change the Chinese holiday is invalid. It is a title, but, the demand that only white people are making, mind you, is that having the word Chinese in a Chinese specific holiday is offensive. If there was a lunar holiday called 'African New Year' which was unique to Africans, why would I tell them to remove the word African for their holiday?

[–]toskaqe -1 points 4 hours ago

It has nothing to do with capitalism-friendly naming, which I am not sure what that entails as it's for the Chinese Diaspora.

Really? Then why is every mall and online retailer having lunar new year sales/events? Because they want the chinese money... and all the other asian customers too. Give me one other example of a commercialized holiday that retains its foreign nationality in the name. Everything gets nativized eventually. The Chinese can call it whatever they want in Chinese, but they can't control the English exonym.

How the fuck can aiNCELs be "PrO-AsiANn" when you have a schizo batshit brainlet LU mod ch1mping at Asians every single fucking day. When the f&gg0t mod above grovels before a pro-west currycel while screeching at Asian countries. R/ aiNCELs is a FUCKING JOKE and always will be.