A National Health Service trust in the UK has announced that it will deny treatment to patients it deems are ‘racists’ or ‘sexists’. by [deleted] in news

[–]Trucker_Joe 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

One is a giant public service paid for by the people they want to turn away, one is small private business that didn't collect any money beforehand. One is an essential health service, one is a non-essential culinary art service. Vital differences and it's completely ridiculous to try to equate the two situations. There's a lot of nuance.

Hardly anyone on the right would have a problem with some leftist bakery denying someone a cake as long as all bakeries are permitted to do so. No one's gonna die or have their health put in jeopardy from being denied a cake.

If irony were made of iron, he'd be crushed under the weight of it... by Many_Coconut in pics

[–]Trucker_Joe 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

More like, it's not illegal to start or join a commune in Western nations, but where are they and why aren't idiots like this living in one? They want the government to force something on others they aren't willing to do themselves.

If irony were made of iron, he'd be crushed under the weight of it... by Many_Coconut in pics

[–]Trucker_Joe 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not illegal to start or join a commune in Western nations, but where are they and why aren't idiots like this living in one? They want the government to force something on others they aren't willing to do themselves.

Accurate political compass of websites, or nah? by newguy in memes

[–]Trucker_Joe 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The website or the userbase? Voat the site is pretty libertarian when it comes to allowance of speech and content.

California Has the Nation's Worst Poverty Rate, New Census Data Shows by luster in news

[–]Trucker_Joe 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Who escaped, and what did they have to say?

The U.S. Coast Guard has documented interdicting 74,375 Cubans at sea from 1982 to 2015. Many more fled between 1959 and 1981. Haven't you ever heard of "Little Havana" Miami where thousands of Cuban exiles live? Are you that oblivious or just being obtuse on purpose? That's just the ones that try to escape to the US, they escape elsewhere too, that. That doesn't count the many that perished, killed or imprisoned on the attempt.

You know the Cuban government has killed people trying to escape? Sick fucking government.

"My father is a plumber, and I have four brothers and a sister. We are poor, like most Cubans. Our house in Havana has just one large room; 11 people live in it—or did. Food was scarce and strictly rationed. About the only fun I had was playing baseball and walking with Maria Esther along the seawall. When I turned 16, the government shipped me off to vocational school in Betancourt, a sugarcane village in Matanzas Province. There I was supposed to learn welding, but classes were often interrupted to send us off to plant cane."

"Young as I was, I was tired of liv­ing in a state that controlled every­one’s life. I dreamed of freedom. I wanted to become an artist and live in the United States, where I had an uncle. I knew that thousands of Cubans had got to America and done well there." - Armando Socarras Ramirez (escaped as a stowaway in a wheel-well a DC-8 and nearly froze to death, his 17 year old friend that was with him wasn't so fortunate and is thought to either have died or got locked up in a political prison for attempting escape)

https://www.rd.com/true-stories/survival/escape-from-cuba-dc-8/

How about Livan Hernandez the MLB pitcher who escaped Cuba. He talked about how he and other members of the Cuban national team would look forward to international road trips in order to collect soap, toilet paper and other amenities provided for free in their hotel rooms to bring back home to their families. He was only making $6-a-month salary in Cuba before making millions in the USA.

Go ahead and read some yourself or go talk with them yourself, the stories are all pretty consistent in talking about poverty, lack of freedom of expression, lack of opportunity, forced labor camps, political prisoners and executions, mass censorship, beatings, scarce food and basic amenities,

The US has corporate/private propaganda.

It's a free press in the USA that give multiple angles to stories, many outlets big and small. Cuba is a great example of that, a lot of MSM in the US actually try to sugarcoat the Castro's rule and horrible policies/actions. What I've said can be backed up by evidence, while Pollyannic views of Cuba post revolution are dangerously delusional. You're free to criticize the leaders of the USA in US press and even investigate, you can write opposing opinions to the mainstream politic. Try dissenting or writing critique of the Castros and Cuba while living there.

What exactly has Cuba specifically done that you find so offensive?

Would take more time than I'm willing to spend on you to be specific so I'll speak of it more broad: Violated people's human rights to free speech and expression, freedom of assembly, freedom of commerce, rights to own property, freedom of religion, rights to choose their leaders, rights to vote. Political killings and terrorism, political prisoners, stolen property and wealth, extrajudicial and arbitrary arrests, isolating themselves from the world economy making their people suffer.

Imagine USA imprisoning people that spoke bad about capitalism, Trump or organized political movements not approved by the state. Imagine not having a say in who governs you. You wouldn't like that very much huh?

Why would that many thousands of people risk their life and harsh long term imprisonment to attempt to escape a place like Cuba if it was a nice place to live. Get real.

A principal in Florida said he couldn't confirm the Holocaust was a 'factual' event. The school district just fired him by Antifa in news

[–]Trucker_Joe 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

bet he wouldn't get fired if he said he couldn't confirm mass killings perpetrated by communists were 'factual' events

California Has the Nation's Worst Poverty Rate, New Census Data Shows by luster in news

[–]Trucker_Joe 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

socialism is beyond moronic and out of touch with human nature, it's usually only espoused by jealous losers that can't compete in the marketplace from either being too lazy or too stupid

California Has the Nation's Worst Poverty Rate, New Census Data Shows by luster in news

[–]Trucker_Joe 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

lol just like a fragile commie, can't handle any opposition

California Has the Nation's Worst Poverty Rate, New Census Data Shows by luster in news

[–]Trucker_Joe 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

socialist faggot, most zoomer thing ever

California Has the Nation's Worst Poverty Rate, New Census Data Shows by luster in news

[–]Trucker_Joe 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

no counterpoints, dead giveaway

California Has the Nation's Worst Poverty Rate, New Census Data Shows by luster in news

[–]Trucker_Joe 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What? Why would I like the USA MSM? They're far better than state controlled media where there's no critique of the government though. At least the people in the USA can choose their media. Cuba is so scared of critics and accountability, their government has to hide and censor everything. They leave their people in the dark, often literally cause their electricity cuts off all the time.

California Has the Nation's Worst Poverty Rate, New Census Data Shows by luster in news

[–]Trucker_Joe 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Socialism is self sabotage, it fails on its own every time.

Even the Chinese communists ditched their disastrous socialist economics for capitalism. Only Cuba and North Korea are still clinging hard to such a failed system.

California Has the Nation's Worst Poverty Rate, New Census Data Shows by luster in news

[–]Trucker_Joe 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

My argument still stands. LA and SF has lots of extremely rich leftists and a shitload of poor and homeless. Why aren't these preachy leftists practicing their equality and wealth distribution thing? Why are they allowing all the homeless to stay that way?

"California has the highest number of unsheltered homeless.1 Nearly 69 percent of the homeless population in California is estimated to be on the street." "Unsheltered homeless are also far less likely to receive treatment for mental illness or urgent health issues."

Why aren't these filthy rich leftists building shelters to help? Instead they're buying their million dollar mansions and driving in their luxury cars, wearing designer, drinking thousand dollar wines, acting smug and smelling their own farts

California Has the Nation's Worst Poverty Rate, New Census Data Shows by luster in news

[–]Trucker_Joe 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You know a lot of the MSM tries to sugarcoat that backwards oppressive authoritarian nation like what you're attempting. Why not try listening to people that actually lived there and risked their lives to escape, you know the ones that can actually speak freely without having to worry about getting locked up for not kissing the Cuban governments ass.

Cuba doesn't even have a real media, just state propaganda that you're unironically regurgitating. At least the US media can criticize and investigate officials and government, go try that in Cuba.

California Has the Nation's Worst Poverty Rate, New Census Data Shows by luster in news

[–]Trucker_Joe 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Your argument is legit? Your argument is disconnected from reality. You have people risking their lives on banana boats to flee the oppression and poverty in Cuba and you act like someone making $100k in San Fran is somehow comparable? You don't realize how stupid that sounds?

Sounds like you fell for Castro's propaganda and you don't even live in Cuba, shame.

California Has the Nation's Worst Poverty Rate, New Census Data Shows by luster in news

[–]Trucker_Joe 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol commies always blame the US for all their failures, it's beyond pathetic.

Like a $100k salary is barely making ends meet if you live in SF.

Ask anyone making $100k in SF if they'd trade that to live in Cuba for $20 a month LOL

California Has the Nation's Worst Poverty Rate, New Census Data Shows by luster in news

[–]Trucker_Joe 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The state salary is a whopping $20 per month in Cuba. Keep swallowing that kool aid comrade.

California Has the Nation's Worst Poverty Rate, New Census Data Shows by luster in news

[–]Trucker_Joe 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Isn't it interesting how places that are dominated by people that preach equality have the most inequality. Visit LA and San Francisco sometime if you need to see it for yourself, lots of extremely rich leftists and a shitload of poor and homeless.

For more extreme examples of inequality the far left creates look to North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, China, Russia. These were the places that were supposed to have equality through communism/socialism yet turned out to have rampant poverty while the ruling class and the elitist class are wealthy.

If there's one thing I learned about the modern left is all that matters is what you say you're gonna do and what you say will happen, but the actual historical results mean absolutely nothing even if they've proven to be disastrous time and time again. It will always be different the next time around, it will finally work this time. Insanity.