We should make cities more walkable, less dependent on cars

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[–]ActuallyNot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Walkability has shitloads of benefits.

But what's with the wolf in a sheep costume with the red and green rectangles around their eyes?

[–]NastyWetSmear 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I think it's a little confusing because the wolf being exposed is on the left and the text is above the other text, meaning you naturally want to read it first, but the idea is:

The innocent, green, good sheep is saying: Making cities walkable is great!
But it's secretly an evil wolf is disguise who has another agenda behind it: Using communism!!

... I don't really understand how one relates to another. I think you could plan your city around foot traffic and still have a free market with little to no starvation, citizen oppressions and gulags, but I think that's the gist it's gunning for.

[–]WoodyWoodPeckerHah he he he hah! 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Zu vill live in apartments, zu vill eat de bugs, zu vill own nufin und zu will like it. -George Soros and other WEF members.

[–]NastyWetSmear 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So the insinuation is that the foot traffic focused city is designed to reduce ownership of things?

[–]WoodyWoodPeckerHah he he he hah! 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You won't have room for them in a one-room apartment. You will rent everything you use.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That kinda feels like extreme capitalism rather than communism, right? If I'm renting everything I own, someone is profiting, and it's not the people. Wouldn't the communist version be that I get a small, one room apartment and a number of goods assigned to me by the state?

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

But it's secretly an evil wolf is disguise who has another agenda behind it: Using communism!!

Oh? The claim is that urban planning requires communism?

Bloody hell. It's just a fucking sidewalk, people. Yes, it's often build by some level of government, but so the fuck are the roads. So making the cities drivable is equally communist.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yeah, I'm not convinced of the connection, but u/WoodyWoodPecker is fleshing out the logic.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

"Zu vill live in apartments, zu vill eat de bugs, zu vill own nufin und zu will like it. -George Soros and other WEF members."?

That reads less like logic to me than it does to you.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm asking follow up questions. That's why I said fleshing it out, rather than "Answered".

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think it's generous to call what he's fleshing out "logic".

[–]NastyWetSmear 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I get that you don't think it'll go anywhere, and neither do I, especially given the gap between replies, but you gotta let him give it a go. Who knows? It could turn out to be irrefutable!...

Prolly isn't, but...

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Increasing walkability is unambiguously good for the public. It's plausibly bad for motor vehicle manufacturers, in that families might need one fewer cars.

The claim that city planning supporting pedestrians comes from a whole communist branch of government that is completely different from city planning supporting motor vehicles is ridiculous on the face of it. They're the same people.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know that the claim is that they are different. I think the meme suggests they are the same people... Also, I'm not sure why you're explaining it to me. You really need to have this conversation with u/WoodyWoodPecker, sorry. I can't make his point for him... As I don't really know what it is yet.