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[–]HugodeCrevellier 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Oh, joy ... let's still deny stuff that has been demonstrated to be the case over and over ... in order to try and make the world fit primitive tribal nonsense by smelly Middle-Eastern herders!

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Find me a single proven instance of a complex chemical reaction that didn't happen, suddenly happening in any organism, without handwavium

[–]HugodeCrevellier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. But the process of evolution is undeniable. That living organisms change/evolve characteristics through many generations has been proven ... ad nauseum.

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What has not been and never will be proved is that one kind of thing evolved into a different kind of thing. All of these complicated chemicals didn't evolve to be in men's sperm they were designed into it.

[–]HugodeCrevellier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It depends on what you mean by 'kind of thing', but if land mammals ('one kind of thing'?) can evolve into dolphins and whales etc., fish-like sea mammals ('a different kind of thing'?) then one kind of thing can indeed evolve into 'a different kind of thing'.

Today's pinnipeds, seals and sea-lions, etc., seem to be on their way there.

When you look at pinnipeds, do you imagine that they were 'designed' that way?

All of these complicated chemicals didn't evolve to be in men's sperm they were designed into it.

Wait, what, why, on what basis?

Is 'complexity' the issue that's bothering you about it?

Cannot complexity 'emerge' as it were?

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

LOL there is, again, no proof that land mammals turnt to whales

everything was designed that way. how is this complicated. physical structures of snowflakes cannot be conflated with glandular hormone cocktails