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[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Italy and Greece have virtually same ancestry as northern Europeans.

Mesolithic Western Hunter Gatherers ,from 20k

Neolithic farmers from Turkey, about 9k.

Steppe ancestry from the bronze age, about 4.5k ago.

They don't have any mass amount of levantine ancestry, north African or SS African ancestry in them. No mass of modern Turkish ancestry either. They have exactly the same mix of ancestry as most Europeans, barring the Sami.

[–]whistlepig 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I feel like we are discussing culture more than we are talking about race.

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

No, Italiens and Greeks don't have the same ancestry as northern Europeans.

[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I assure you they really do.

How do you think it differs?

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Swedes and greeks/italiens have around 0.008 fst

[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That's nothing.

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No, it's a lot. It's 10 times more than between Danes and the Dutch.

[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And that's still virtually nothing.

I happen to know most of that variation is down to genes in colouring, and some immune system function.

https://nextnature.net/2008/08/genetic-map-of-europe

A good visualisation of the difference.

The Danes and Dutch live next door to each other. The British and Irish are quite distinct from them, about the same distance from Germans as the northern Italians are from Germans.

Are you saying the worlds greatest empire didn't have punctuality etc at its core?

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Danes and Dutch live next door to each other. The British and Irish are quite distinct from them

No, the English are only twice as far as the dutch compared to Danes.

And that's still virtually nothing.

No, it's a lot.