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[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You can't? Oh. I had thought you could.

Let's just say that its very hard :)
Judaism is an ethnoreligion.

How are the morals different?

In many ways. Christians can't think the wrong things without sinning. Jews on the other hand can't do the wrong things, which means they invent all kinds of ways to do the things they cant do while not actually doing them. Like an entire jewish town connected wires on the rooftops between buildings so that the entire town counted as "indoor". They see cheating as part of the game. Those who follow the rules, lose basically.

Yeah I just meant them as examples of stuff I thought would run counter to their narrative that I think have some truth to them, that many members might try to not believe.

Yes, but not taboos imo. You really think that whiteness should be bred to extinction because asians are "objectively superior"?

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Those who follow the rules, lose basically.

Interesting. Fits Jacob's story. Israel: "He who struggles with God".

should be bred to extinction because asians are "objectively superior"?

I'm not saying any of those things are my actual opinions, just that they're ideas I think there's some evidence for that the alt-right would probably not embrace for motivated reasons.... I could be wrong though, at least about part of the alt-right. There is a part that just wants to feel better about themselves for being white when they don't have a lot going for them (that's probably the group I fit into, unfortunately, so it's possible I'm doing some projecting onto the group as a whole, but I don't think I'm the only one as this problem is discussed elsewhere. And I do try not to be a drain or whatever.)

And "should" is different from "this is how the world works."

I think a lot of this talk about white biological superiority breeds complacency. Which is profoundly dangerous. People think they will be secure because of genetics, and so don't think they need to do other stuff to survive. In a way leftism is more of a "white supremacist" thing, none of it could possibly work unless whites really do have plenty to give and are permanently so superior that they do not need to aggressively invest in their own as much as possible.

I would strongly prefer for whites to continue to exist (and continue to develop), in all the unique ethnic variations that exist (euros: please stop watching america so much, I know we're loud but your traditions are precious and irreplaceable). I just think that it's bad to automatically assume it will just happen, I think we need to fight for it and make sure that's the outcome.

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I'm not saying any of those things are my actual opinions, just that they're ideas I think there's some evidence for that the alt-right would probably not embrace for motivated reasons

Alt-righters are not jerking off to IQ. That's the leftist caricurature of the alt-right. The alt-right is pro-white. Even if whites were like dogs, they would still support their own kind because thats the ideology.
IQ differences between races is just a way to break the anti-white and egalitarian narrative.

that's probably the group I fit into

You're selling yourself short. You're just as good as anyone else.

I think a lot of this talk about white biological superiority breeds complacency. Which is profoundly dangerous.

There is some truth to this.

In a way leftism is more of a "white supremacist" thing, none of it could possibly work unless whites really do have plenty to give and are permanently so superior that they do not need to aggressively invest in their own as much as possible.

In a lot of ways actually. If I didn't know about the tribe, I could've easily been convinced that its a white supremacy movement. You can frame almost all of the leftist policies in a pro-white perspective.

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break the [...] egalitarian narrative. [...] You're just as good as anyone else.

lol! you are a more liberal type at heart, aren't you? I appreciate the encouragement, but, well, no, I'm not. I shouldn't sell myself short, or hold myself back from being the best I can be, or think I don't have a responsibility to contribute what I can, but I also shouldn't exaggerate. A lot of the people in the alt-right are successful, financially secure, with several children, at my same age or younger. I'm not. I think those differences matter. I want the successful ones to propagate whatever it is they're doing that's successful.

The alt-right is pro-white. Even if whites were like dogs, they would still support their own kind because thats the ideology.

Yeah. This is what I'm drawn to it for.

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

lol! you are a more liberal type at heart, aren't you?

Yes, for sure.

Yeah. This is what I'm drawn to it for.

And what draws me away :)

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

And what draws me away :)

You don't like that it's pro-white?

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I do, out of necessity.
And I'm more war-mongering than alt-righters. I naturally like empires, kingdoms, imperialism, colonialism, conquest etc.

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And I'm more war-mongering than alt-righters. I naturally like empires, kingdoms, imperialism, colonialism, conquest etc.

Wait, what? How does that fit with wanting to preserve each race in their own homeland? Is that one of those contradictory opinions you mentioned?

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How does that fit with wanting to preserve each race in their own homeland?

That's the alt-right position.

Is that one of those contradictory opinions you mentioned?

That wasn't what I had in mind when I said that. I see these things like hypotheses. But you're right it is kind of contradictory but I guess feelings are like that. I would still want to preserve different peoples but I also like those things lol.
Take Sweden as an example. I like Sweden and I love Swedes, but Scania is kind of ours, I think, if we're being honest here ;)