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[–]Zapped 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (18 children)

I didn't hear her call for drone strikes on anyone, but it was strange that she prefaced the argument of convicting Trump of impeachment with drone strikes against American citizens, when one should have nothing to do with the other. Keep in mind that this is Nicole Wallace who is speaking.

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    [–]Zapped 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

    Oh, no. I agree with you that she's part of the group slowly dipping their feet into the water of calling for it, but overreaching on a claim (title of the post) can drive a wedge between you and those you wish to inform or persuade. There have been plenty of people who have directly called for incarceration or even death to people not toeing the party line, but I did not hear it in this clip. It seems like she was trying to rationalize enough to call Senator McConnell a hypocrite.

    [–]MythOfPrivilege 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Once they get comfortable with that roundabout rhetoric they'll start directly calling for it.

    [–]insta 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

    can drive a wedge between you and those you wish to inform or persuade.

    I think we've long since reached a point of saturation in terms of convincing people of the problems with the media. At this point you either sympathize with that argument or you're the totally okay with it being pushed because it benefits your side.

    [–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

    Semi-related:

    After 31 years of owning the house in which I rent, my landlady is selling because the market is HOT!!! Today was Day 2 of 3 open houses to show off the 4 apartments and property.

    I NEVER miss an opportunity to explain my unconventional place and plans which leads me to my personal story in a nutshell, along with expounding on the lockdown scamdemic, looming /s/FoodCrises and other "conspiracies" - thus the need for basement year-round garden.

    The funny thing is, a year ago I think I would have run in to many more weird looks, however, I found that about 80% were in solid agreement (from micro head nodding to raised fists and "Keep up the good fight!"), and the other 20% were unreadable behind their masks. Zero disagreed (that I'm aware of).

    [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

    you poor bastard. Its hard to make good soil, and to have your landlord sell the place out from under you must suck. Can you buy it?

    [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    It will only suck if the new landlord is not good. She was good, save for a handful of flaws.

    I couldn't buy it if I had a million times my wealth. I scrape by month to month.

    [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    New landlord = higher rent.

    [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Not in Canada. It's all controlled, for better or worse. Generally a slow erosion.

    [–]MythOfPrivilege 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Did you notice the grin that flashed across her face when she first used the word "killing"?

    [–]Zapped 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes, but I'm not sure what that means. She definitely knew what she was saying. I don't know if she thought she was being clever or if she was slightly embarrassed that her producer had her make that connection. You're right in that it was a "tell" .

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    I didn't hear her call for drone strikes on anyone,

    This. End of story.

    The headline is disinformation. The question she asks is about ways of addressing domestic terrorism, NOT ways of committing drone strikes on Americans.

    Her reference was to a another case of a drone strike against someone who was not an American, and not on American soil. Those who supported that strike might want to be at least somewhat concerned about domestic terrorism, but there is no way anyone is considering drone strikes against Americans (yet).

    [–]JasonCarswell 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    Agreed, not in context, but...

    NEVER is it end of story. They build up the foundations of their psychotic machinations, inch by inch, propaganda soundbite by soundbite, calling for the death of liberty by a thousand cuts.

    This is the beginning of the end of our story, the story of humanity.

    This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius Transhumanism via plague, famine, and eugenics.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Interesting point about transhumanism. Put more cynically, there is a concern also for a posthumanist developments. Posthuman thinking dates back to the 16th century, but taranshumanist and posthumanist approaches are developing, in a manner that could be disasterous for the 99%, or at least quite difficult. It's something to watch, while data about each of us is already collected at an exceptional rate. But now I'm getting off topic, perhaps....

    [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Indeed, heavy food for critical thoughts.

    [–]Zapped 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Thanks for this. I hadn't known that Anwar al-Awlaki was an American. I knew he was a Yemen citizen. Seems he had dual citizenship. Interesting to see that this is the first time an American was targeted by a US drone strike. I was surprised during the Obama administration that there were hardly any criticisms about drone strikes, in the MSM, in right-wing MSM, in right-wing propaganda, in any of the news, but I may have been looking in the wrong places. Atrocities of the drone strikes were reported, but there wasn't much criticism. Now in response to domestic terrorism (even for those who disagree with this term), it's fair to ask about the history US-style approaches to drone warfare on terrorists. Not that drones are the answer to routing out terrorism. Indeed, it would help to have laws that protect US citizens against drone strikes, anywhere in the world. US attrocities in Yemen are also related to this, but a different subject. Thanks for the link.

    [–]Zapped 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    You're welcome. I remember it as a huge story as it happened. It was interesting to see how different people processed their opinions on it. I saw that it didn't matter so much if they were left or right, Democrat or Republican. Most everyone saw al-Alwlaki as an enemy of the state, but the fact that he was an American Citizen and was executed without trial was what the argument was about.