Mozilla Firefox: "All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert"

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Checking every 24 hours is phoning home? They are monitoring me to ensure I haven't installed any non-signed Add Ons.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I don't think it requests the certificate anew, though. According to my theory, the bug would still occur if you disconnected the internet connection. That's why they couldn't just patch it server-side, and had to push something through to the actual installed copies of Firefox – using the push-through system that's easy to turn off and I can't remember whether it's on by default.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I think it's all enabled by default. I'm done with Mozilla, someone out there respects their own goddamn users.

I just read a story about how they popped up special Mr Robot ads to everyone a few years ago.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The Mr Robot ad only came up to users who hadn't opted out – which I know isn't good enough; I disagree with Mozilla's new "opt-out" policy too – and they apologised for it.

Mozilla needs to change, but is this really what made you want to drop it? A certificate expiration that was only an issue because Mozilla had limited ability to push things out to people's Firefox instances?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The expiration doesn't bug me, it's the phone home and non privacy focused settings enabled by default. Yeah man I'm old and sick of this shit.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

So, this was just what made you re-evaluate and realise that you wouldn't put up with it any more? Mozilla's great, but the decisions they're having to make with Firefox to keep the funding from Google can only really be described as "compromised".

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yes, I'm late to the party.

the decisions they're having to make with Firefox to keep the funding from Google

Very interesting. If you have a link about that I'd love to read up on it.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Here's a 2014 article. Looks like Mozilla were still trying to keep their independence back then.

I'm hoping this is just a blip. It probably is; I think I'm thinking too much into it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thanks man. So Mozilla gets $ from whoever wants to be the default search engine.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sadly. They're doing good stuff with the money, though, so it might be worth it in the long run, but it compromises Firefox to do so.