DuckDuckGo Browser Caught Tracking Websites Visited By User

Jesus · 2020-07-09T03:47:36+00:00

DuckDuckGo censors controversial forums through indexing mainstream articles instead. It has only been a recent change. Weinberg admits to it.

madcow-5 · 2020-07-08T16:16:08+00:00

Can someone ELI5?

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azaad · 2020-07-08T15:25:32+00:00

This information is fake. You have to focus on DuckDuckGo

Look at the rest of the thread. We did focus on DuckDuckGo and I'm still not convinced it wasn't a problem.

RuskinF · 2020-07-08T15:25:24+00:00

Apple's macOS has a lot of things to care about. You have to focus on the fact that they can be easily infected too. I would rather use Linux or Windows with an Antivirus than using a mac. Follow this advice through and through if you want to be safer than when you were with Apple.

RuskinF · 2020-07-08T15:22:04+00:00

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RuskinF · 2020-07-08T15:18:49+00:00

This information is fake. You have to focus on DuckDuckGo. It was a bug and they found it and replaced it and solved it for once and for all.

Comm4nderCrunch · 2020-07-08T05:48:35+00:00

If you haven't heard by now, it's time to patch. Here is F5's documentation regarding the vulnerability.

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https://github.com/f5devcentral/f5-azure-saca/blob/master/SACAv2/STIG/bigipstig.sh

m68k · 2020-07-05T23:29:04+00:00

TIL DuckDuckGo has their own browser.

kokolokoNightcrawler · 2020-07-05T19:33:49+00:00

Lmao, I was arguing this idiot earlier...

I've had an Android phone for a decade. I've never had any security problems, nor heard of anyone who has.

Hand on Bible, that's gotta be the dumbest sentence I've read on Saidit since I joined. So many negative IQ redditor NPC's came in lately, really bringing the mood down.

Jesus · 2020-07-05T18:08:28+00:00

It is not worthwhile. Most people believe it is a good privacy orientated alternative to google. I have my doubts. The owner, Weinberg, had made it clear in a few videos that they index articles and disregard forums and blogs. So, in reality, they censor what independent people write and post.

Searx instances are good but you have to make sure you use one that doesn't have Google or Duckduckgo on in its settings. There are many options that searx can use to compile web searches. You can even build your own server.

I did, for awhile, github has insteuctions on how to do this but it was too much data. But I was able to compare duckduckgo search results and search reaults with the big players including duckduckgo off so Searx didn't index their results. And all the controversial blogs and forums were at the top.

For example, I typed in the "Lindbergh baby kidnapping conspiracy forums"

For duckduckgo, and google everything was about Lindbergh secretly killing his baby because he sympathized with the nazis because he was an isolationist.

Almost every result was mainstream crap.

Then I searched the same thing in searx with the big players turned off and I was able to get all the controversial forums i cluding the forum which had the substance on Warburg's connection to the killing through the lindbergh kidnapper and the book written about it which one would not be able to find or even know about if they had used Dickduckgo.

azaad · 2020-07-05T14:56:53+00:00

They're not just a proxy for Google Search.

Yeah they are also a tool for Microsoft and other massive international monopolies to push their junk on you at the very least.

azaad · 2020-07-05T14:55:18+00:00

I've had an Android phone for a decade. I've never had any security problems, nor heard of anyone who has.

You're being naive. Have you heard of the damn NSA and the PRISM program? Your phone is literally a surveillance device, if you can't see how, I can't convince you. Either way, DuckDuckGo is hosted on Amazon's servers and they are legally obliged to hand over any data they have to the NSA and other law enforcement agencies. If they were logging this kind of data, it so doesn't look good for them

BravoVictor · 2020-07-05T14:43:02+00:00

is even more alarming considering the security vulnerabilities on phones.

I've had an Android phone for a decade. I've never had any security problems, nor heard of anyone who has.

It is a story because it is a terrible look for a company which markets itself on its value of privacy, that is all.

No, it doesn't, and the fact that you can't explain why only proves your pushing baseless fear mongering to the point where you're pretty clearly just trolling now.

azaad · 2020-07-05T14:31:28+00:00

Quite possible. I mean, they need to make money to keep their servers running. The only private search engine is one you build yourself by scraping the net. Outside of that, privacy is a pipe dream with search engines

BravoVictor · 2020-07-05T14:30:21+00:00

DuckDuckGo and StartPage aggregate search results from other search engines, mainly Google.

Yes and no. Here's what DDG says it gets its results from, which does include other search engines like Bing and Google, but also it's own custom crawler and adapters for sites like Wikipedia. They're not just a proxy for Google Search.

wrongthink · 2020-07-05T12:26:28+00:00

I could be remembering this wrong but I thought last year startpage sold itself to a shady company.

d3rr · 2020-07-05T06:00:30+00:00

I had no idea, I don't think this is common knowledge. Between that and DDG sourcing their results from the big guys, it does not sound worthwhile whatsoever.

Jesus · 2020-07-05T05:52:03+00:00

Spelling is subpar.

Jesus · 2020-07-05T05:46:41+00:00

Yup, duckduckgo is owned by a Weinberg. I have proof that they hide forums and controversial subjects. Weinberg even admited in an interview that they mite certain forums and put the mainstream most relevant subjects at the too. Forums and blogs from real people are all but hidden from the forst page.

This has been a recent occurance that I have noticed. Duckduckgo is controlled. Use Seerx.xyz. And turn off duckduckgo ans google on the settinngs list. You'll get far more information by non-corporate shills.

azaad · 2020-07-05T04:29:23+00:00

Do some further research before spreading misinformation

I wouldn't necessarily call this misinformation, it is more like an opinion. The fact that this data effectively gave them logs of the sites their users where visiting on their phones for God knows how long is very alarming only because they are deceiving people into a false sense of security.

azaad · 2020-07-05T04:26:47+00:00

It only effects their Android app, not their regular website

It's not tracking user data, it's just retrieving the site's favicon in a format that can be displayed in the app.

The fact that it only effects their Android app is even more alarming considering the security vulnerabilities on phones. It is a story because it is a terrible look for a company which markets itself on its value of privacy, that is all.

azaad · 2020-07-05T04:05:51+00:00

I read this page, https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources/ It refutes your statement.

I read this page and it refutes your naivety. You're basically exchanging Google for Microsoft and neither care about you having privacy, both care about good PR

azaad · 2020-07-05T03:58:53+00:00

Wow, that is definitely an unbiased independent source. I don't buy it, I don't think it refutes anything and I'm not taking the claims of a PR statement at face value.

We also of course have more traditional links in the search results, which we also source from multiple partners, though most commonly from Bing (and none from Google).

This much is probably true, only StartPage uses the Google API directly out of the two but you have to realize Google's stranglehold is not just through search, they have trackers on something like 80-90% of the web. They know what you're searching for, end of story.

What bothers me is that DuckDuckGo often just gives me the same results as Google anyway. This is because they clearly take advertising money from the same people. When you can literally pay DuckDuckGo to push your link to the top of the search results, Google and DuckDuckGo will end up displaying similar results when ad money is involved. Even when that isn't the case, DuckDuckGo is not the end all solution to your search problems. Bottom line is this, DuckDuckGo may not create an individual profile on you and tailor results to that profile like Google does but they advertise based on keywords and engagement obviously. It doesn't matter if you use a VPN. It is better to just use something like StartPage because it lets you use Google without the personalized profile and tailored search results while aggregating the results with other search engines. To me personally, DuckDuckGo and Google are two sides to the same coin because they both seem to make it difficult to find what I'm looking for

SeasonedReason · 2020-07-05T02:21:28+00:00

I read this page, https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources/ It refutes your statement.

azaad · 2020-07-05T02:03:13+00:00

It means just what I said. DuckDuckGo and StartPage aggregate search results from other search engines, mainly Google. You just use them as a proxy server to make it difficult for Google to track you.

magnora7 · 2020-07-05T00:56:45+00:00

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SeasonedReason · 2020-07-05T00:40:23+00:00

What does "we use these services as proxies to Google, all searches go through Google" mean?

azaad · 2020-07-04T23:35:02+00:00

If you think sending data to DuckDuckGo is being used to track you...you're already sending them data in the form of search queries that can also be used to track you.

I totally believe this. You just have to do a cost benefit analysis on each use.

Even better, you should be using incognito browser behind a VPN.

I personally use StartPage because their policies seem more transparent than DuckDuckGo. I believe DuckDuckGo censors results and favors advertisers way too easily. Either way, we use these services as proxies to Google, all searches go through Google.

robo1p · 2020-07-04T23:02:33+00:00

Mac OS gets spyware, Windows 10 is spyware, how is linux doing nowadays?

BravoVictor · 2020-07-04T22:50:40+00:00

Sounds like a non-story.

It only effects their Android app, not their regular website
It's not tracking user data, it's just retrieving the site's favicon in a format that can be displayed in the app. Otherwise they'd have to bloat up the app's code with image processing functionality to retrieve and convert all the various image formats. Much easier to just setup a tiny server somewhere that the app can just query.

If you think sending data to DuckDuckGo is being used to track you...you're already sending them data in the form of search queries that can also be used to track you. You either trust them when they say they're not tracking you or you don't. This news doesn't change anything.

If you're truly so paranoid as to think they're tracking you, you can always hack your phone's DNS to point the domain "icons.duckduckgo.com" to localhost or something so it can't retrieve anything.

Even better, you should be using incognito browser behind a VPN.

azaad · 2020-07-04T22:28:39+00:00

This was still sketchy af and DuckDuckGo is also sketchy in the search results it produces. StartPage is slightly better

asdfzsdf · 2020-07-04T22:11:04+00:00

Do some further research before spreading misinformation. This has been fixed & merged into master: https://github.com/duckduckgo/Android/pull/878

azaad · 2020-07-04T19:04:27+00:00

Well, that is basically how I have always felt about it... A private search engine is too good to be true, you have to scrape the web yourself if you want that

bald-janitor · 2020-07-04T19:03:15+00:00

I always knew they were a bunch of scammers, google will never allow anyone seriously challenging them!

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azaad · 2020-07-04T09:16:02+00:00

i respectfully decline

Don't think you can.

India implemented something like this, it is becoming a hotspot for these kinds of authoritarian tech policies outside of China. If a policy like this comes, we won't be allowed to participate in any public space in the absence of valid markings on an immunity passport. So, forget about school or starting a business or traveling anywhere at least. It isn't going to be as simple as respectfully declining from the looks of it

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0rco · 2020-07-03T03:26:17+00:00

"Not open source" - while I understand their explanation, I think decentralization (unsure if that includes open source software but leaning towards it does) is key to a true "utopia".

quipu · 2020-07-02T12:44:03+00:00

Regulating it just means that only the government and financial industry, and foreign countries, will have access to unregulated AI. No thanks.

hylia · 2020-07-02T12:36:00+00:00

This is an interesting debate however I don’t understand why it’s a debate. Facial recognition technology should be illegal to use since we haven’t signed anything agreeing to it. It’s a huge invasion of privacy.

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m68k · 2020-07-01T23:30:42+00:00

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FlippyKing · 2020-07-01T21:44:47+00:00

I know of cases where doctors who were required to be present in the hospital to do psych evaluations tried to get away with doing it via video. The connection was bad, the patient could not hear the doctor and so they were considered confused and non responsive. There is so much in any evaluation of a person for any kind of medical situation that is just absent from "telemedicine" even if it is working well. This just seems like a way to get paid, and for an whole in industry to find a way to grift, for doing nearly nothing, not to mention to elimiate doctors or pretend there is doctors covering areas where they are not.

hector_died_of_aids · 2020-07-01T17:12:50+00:00

couldn't get love? faggot you're talking about a corporation not caring about you. you're an emotionally broken person latching on to a retarded ideology that won't ever work. if you think it will, come work for me for free

Nordic · 2020-07-01T17:09:18+00:00

Heil Hitler

ideologicalMigrant88 · 2020-07-01T17:09:10+00:00

i see why you turned to money when you couldn't get love

hector_died_of_aids · 2020-07-01T16:58:18+00:00

capitalist

who cares faggot? that's not the problem. making shitty software and hardware is

cares

grow up. noone cares about you. or me

ideologicalMigrant88 · 2020-07-01T16:49:06+00:00

I used to think similiar way, that Tim wasted Steve's ideas. But, after doing deeper research, I realised that apple was always capitalist, like, it was made to gain money.

It used agressive strategy of paying people to do things they (apple) wanted, which disgusts me. Tim is even 'better' at gaining money than Steve.

Personally, i kinda like how Big Sur looks and what direction apple is going, but you have still to remember that

a) Apple cares about money, not about us

b) There are better alternatives (i personally like and use zenfone instead of iphone, I think it is better than pro max and I can afford pro max, and, with whole Bill Gates controversy, I still think that windows 7 I currently use is one of the best systems, with compatibility with lots of stuff, still I hope for some really good alternative, but in current landscape it seems hardly probable)

c) We shouldn't support apple, even though action of a single person doesn't make much of a difference. Best action could be on big scale. I really wish trump did something, but no, he is still hated by liberals and disappointed conservatives, so he will probably lose and biden won't do things as well

hector_died_of_aids · 2020-07-01T16:30:21+00:00

imagine using apple garbage a decade after steve died. tim the sodomite buttfucked apple right into the ground with shitty QA and neglected hardware. it's not a computer company anymore, it's a fashionable "devices and digital services" company

Jesus-Christ · 2020-07-01T15:49:03+00:00

but... macs can't get viruses

JasonCarswell · 2020-07-01T15:30:56+00:00

My epic collection would have made for an interesting episode of storage wars. At the time I was powerless to do anything about it due to a tedious and tragic series of unfortunate events. I've since torrented more than enough to replace them but I miss the hard copies and album covers you could hold in your hands - as well as all my DJ notes and especially the rare and irreplaceable ones.

Handroid7 · 2020-07-01T14:30:06+00:00

I see.

Optical media is more about reliability and archival, see here

Handroid7 · 2020-07-01T14:29:34+00:00

What happened to those CDs?

html · 2020-06-30T23:32:14+00:00

I like how there's a subsaidit for spam lol

VantaFount · 2020-06-30T20:02:59+00:00

Marked for deletion. Advertising goes in /s/ads

happysmash27 · 2020-06-30T19:13:17+00:00

I disagree. Boycott; don't ban. Big government action usually has unintended side effects, and banning things usually turns into a slippery slope. What if they banned SaidIt?

Matrage · 2020-06-30T00:12:24+00:00

Tik Tok should be banned everywhere

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ring_zero · 2020-06-29T12:12:20+00:00

nope ... i respectfully decline

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VantaFount · 2020-06-27T17:58:15+00:00

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whereswhat · 2020-06-27T02:33:55+00:00

Yeah, they aren't gonna stop unless something dramatic happens. No matter what, they will still violate your privacy in every way they can conceive.

Trajan · 2020-06-22T15:08:16+00:00

Sorry this got you a bit emotional. Maybe have a good cry and then let me know if you want to talk a bit more?

danuker · 2020-06-22T08:13:21+00:00

With all due respect, fuck off.

Any company that protects their devices from repair deserves a boycott. Especially if they cost multiple thousands of dollars.

People, buy something repairable.

useless_aether · 2020-06-21T21:01:48+00:00

elsagate is a relatively recent scandal

Trajan · 2020-06-20T06:42:11+00:00

That’s not a commodity part. It’s not expected to be replaced by random repair shops. It’s a core component. Anybody who buys Apple stuff, expecting to swap out hardware, is doing it wrong. Same if they expect to get it repaired at their local TV repair shop.

danuker · 2020-06-19T22:23:13+00:00

3:11 in the video he says they tried replacing a WiFi card. They said they could not get it to work because of serialization.

filbs111 · 2020-06-19T18:59:06+00:00

That's neat. Can put anything outside the window, add more windows etc.

Trajan · 2020-06-19T05:17:52+00:00

Yes you can. PCI cards aren’t affected. It’s core components, like the motherboard and inbuilt SSD storage that are affected.

magnora7 · 2020-06-18T21:43:08+00:00

You could overlay anything... like the tv or computer screen floating in the air

dark_devil_dd · 2020-06-18T18:30:31+00:00

Why does he need VR?

magnora7 · 2020-06-18T02:24:18+00:00

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Citrix is a pile of goose shit

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RuskinF · 2020-06-15T10:14:58+00:00

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RuskinF · 2020-06-15T10:11:58+00:00

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RuskinF · 2020-06-15T10:00:31+00:00

Facial recognition has not hit a roadblock yet. It uses AI to detect the facial structures of people. With time as new programming languages emerge for the actual purpose of teaching machines to learn structures and series by themselves then Ai-operated facial recognition systems would grow even further.

Riva · 2020-06-15T09:58:20+00:00

If only we could beat the Mach 10 barrier

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Canbot · 2020-06-11T02:33:50+00:00

I don't know if I should delete this, I can't actually find where to buy it even though it looks market ready. But I am coming across youtube video's of it demoing that are 11 years old already!

Oh well, I still think it's cool.

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Chipit · 2020-06-10T03:40:44+00:00

It's Google. They don't get the benefit of the doubt.

Sebine · 2020-06-10T00:04:50+00:00

I saw a different word for a moment, while the page loaded

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??

tantrnja32erhaer · 2020-06-09T23:06:35+00:00

I noticed Google translate regressed a lot sometime this past year. The translations seem good, they are grammatically correct, readable, and choose better word translations within the context. But errors include flipping the meaning (from yes-sentences to no-sentences), omitting entire sentences, or translating rare jargon into entirely different rare jargon.

I don't necessarily think this has political intent behind it, rather, they probably shifted to a different neural network architecture that produces better grammar but has less understanding of individual words.

Tigerbitecrazy · 2020-06-09T12:13:12+00:00

It's hard to recall but I think this the ship that they lost track of shortly after I entered it's orbit but I remember there being a surprisingly small fuss for a machine that cost so much to create.

Horrux · 2020-06-08T16:12:13+00:00

It's pretty telling that this thing was designed in the 1990s and now, over 20 years later, Trump has announced the creation of the "space force" which ... is a new idea?

Nothing new about it, it was always the intent. From NASA to the Air Force, to DARPA, to the Space Force.

magnora7 · 2020-06-08T02:52:58+00:00

This guy says one of the longest missions of the x-37 lasted 2 years! It was orbiting the earth for 2 years and then landed!

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danuker · 2020-06-08T01:35:30+00:00

Huh. Thanks.

Link says Tor Browser relied on certificates issued by authorities to update extensions. But this particular bug was fixed, they say.

Also, WikiLeaks trusts Tor:

https://wikileaks.org/Press.html#submit_help_contact

magnora7 · 2020-06-08T01:07:01+00:00

It was made by US Navy Intelligence.

Plus all this stuff: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/53y0pk/if_i_understand_correctly_tor_is_compromised_and/

danuker · 2020-06-08T01:02:22+00:00

How? Correlation attacks? They can be mitigated.

Tigerbitecrazy · 2020-06-07T21:06:46+00:00

This is rad! Amidst all the craziness going on it's refreshing to see people's ingenuity at work. Good luck and please keep us updated.

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