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[–]BobOki 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think one of the BIGGEST problems we have in this current climate is the inability to be your own person. You as a whole are not allowed to have left and right views... you have to be ALL IN on one or the other.... and frankly there is not a single SANE person that has that view. When a party can define who you are, you are not a person who can be called a person anymore.... you are now a party, and we do not take the views of parties, just like we do not take companies as people. There is only 25% AT MOST on each side that is all or nothing party crazy..... and the rest of the world is getting fucking fed up with your bullshit, both sides. Fuck off with your shit which all leads to nothing more than RICH people get more rich.

Anyone who does not agree, please reply and list your reasons why, and I will give it an honest look and respond. I have posted my view, let me know yours so I can reply and we can talk. I 100% do not understand any all in person, and would LOVE to have a real talk about why.. not bullshit talking points or me vs you.

[–]Dune1032 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Did you think Chamberlain was smart in given Hitler the Sudetenland because he wanted peace? When Germany invaded Poland in 1939, Britain and France declared war on Germany but did nothing. Don't you think it would have been smarter for them to attack Germany from the west while much of Germany's forces were in Poland.

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

whataboutism what now?

[–]binaryblob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Crimea == Sudetenland of our time.

A Monte Carlo simulation packed with historical data (including state secrets of both nations) would suffice for an answer. Nobody is going to supply you with that data, so any answer is going to be unsupported by data.

[–]Dune1032 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Crimea is recognized by the UN as belonging to Ukraine. See https://www.brookings.edu/articles/crimea-six-years-after-illegal-annexation/

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But nobody gives a fuck about the UN when nukes are involved. In international relations, the only thing that matters is power. Influence in the UN is only a tiny part of that and this will only grow less for large countries in the future. At some point in the future "trade" won't be needed anymore and at that time absolutely nothing will stop further war.

[–]Dune1032 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The UN has power. It was the UN which fought in the Korean War.

[–]WoodyWoodPecker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, because they were all under control of the New World Order.

[–]Oyveygoyim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Why didn't England and France declare war on the Soviet communists who also invaded Poland? Don't you think it would have been smarter for them to join Germany in fighting the communists?

[–]Dune1032 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Germany was viewed as the greater threat. Britain and the US shipped supplies to Russia during World War II. Note that Germany invaded Poland before Russia later joined.

[–]Oyveygoyim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Germany invaded poland 2 weeks before Russia because Russia was going to invade regardless. They had all their military equipment ready to go just outside polands border. Germany was "viewed" as a greater threat to the communists. Unfortunately our government/military just like England and France chose to side with the communists.

[–]Dune1032 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

No. Unlike Germany Russia made no threats against Poland. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland

In early 1939, several months before the invasion, the Soviet Union began strategic alliance negotiations with the United Kingdom and France against the crash militarization of Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler.

Joseph Stalin pursued the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact with Adolf Hitler, which was signed on 23 August 1939. This non-aggression pact contained a secret protocol, that drew up the division of Northern and Eastern Europe into German and Soviet spheres of influence in the event of war.[21] One week after the signing of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, German forces invaded Poland from the west, north, and south on 1 September 1939. Polish forces gradually withdrew to the southeast where they prepared for a long defense of the Romanian Bridgehead and awaited the French and British support and relief that they were expecting, but neither the French nor the British came to their rescue. On 17 September 1939 the Soviet Red Army invaded the Kresy regions in accordance with the secret protocol.[22][Note 7]

At the opening of hostilities several Polish cities including Dubno, Łuck and Włodzimierz Wołyński let the Red Army in peacefully, convinced that it was marching on in order to fight the Germans. General Juliusz Rómmel of the Polish Army issued an unauthorised order to treat them like an ally before it was too late.[25] The Soviet government announced it was acting to protect the Ukrainians and Belarusians who lived in the eastern part of Poland, because the Polish state had collapsed – according to Soviet propaganda, which perfectly echoed Western sentiment that coined the term "Blitzkrieg" to describe Germany's "lightning war" crushing defeat of Poland after just weeks of battle[26] – and could no longer guarantee the security of its citizens.[27][28][29][30] Facing a second front, the Polish government concluded that the defense of the Romanian Bridgehead was no longer feasible and ordered an emergency evacuation of all uniformed troops to then-neutral Romania.[1]

The US believed Germany had the means of attacking the US unlike Russia. From https://history.army.mil/books/wwii/Framework/ch03.htm

To say that Germany had no specific plans for attacking the United States or any other part of the New World is more or less beside the point in appraising the measures taken at the time to meet the possibility of German military action. When the Germans won their quick land victory over France and Great Britain in June 1940, they had no specific plans for attacking anywhere else, but they did have the means. They had a military machine overwhelmingly powerful in land and air forces, backed by an immediate war industrial capacity far greater than that of any other nation. These means were at the disposal of leaders utterly devoid of a sense of international morality. Given this military preponderance and type of leadership, it was inevitable that the German nation, hindered rather than aided by its Italian partner, would strike out in new directions after the fall of France. Whatever the professions of Hitler and other Nazi leaders, the German military machine was not likely to stop until it was defeated. This was the German menace.

[–]Oyveygoyim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Russia made no threats yet they slaughtered thousands of poles. Look up the Katyn massacre which the jewish media blamed on the Germans until the 1990s when the Russians admitted to committing those horrific crimes.

[–]Dune1032 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yes, they did. However, Russia's invasion of Poland was taken advantage of a defeated Poland. There is no evidence Russia would have done it had not the Germans invaded. Your claim that France and Britain should have allied with Germany to attack Russia would have led to disaster. Germany would have control of Poland and Russia. Germany could also block British and French troops from returning back home from Russia. Germany could then invade France and Britain. The Holocaust would have been much greater.

In 1952, a Congressional investigation concluded that Russia was responsible for the Katyn Forest massacre. See https://scholarlycommons.law.case.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1128&context=jil

[–]Oyveygoyim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Germany never had any intention of invading England. He hated fighting England and that's why he sent over a dozen peace treaties to England. But Churchill was bought by the jews at that point and didn't care how many English men died.

The holohoax didn't happen. It's one of the greatest lies ever told.

[–]Dune1032 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Germany wanted to invade Britain but Hitler realized that it would be too difficult. See https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/invasion_ww2_01.shtml

[–]Oyveygoyim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A fucking BBC article...

Look at that bullshit article. They allegedly wanted to but didn't and no evidence to support this claim. Just like the holohoax you just believe everything they tell you.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They did. They declared war on both.

Then Russia got screwed over and switched sides

[–]Oyveygoyim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When?

[–]binaryblob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You can't really run a state without the CIA, because it would collapse in a few years.

When you stop spying on other countries, you could be surprised by a new military reality in which you get destroyed out of the blue by your enemies. Take for example the Tic Tac technology. If China were to have that technology, they could destroy the US in the blink of an eye.

The most likely explanation for this screenshot of a Tweet is that this is a bot that wants to weaken the US. Just have someone go to this door and check whether there is a beating heart. I don't think so. If he exists, he is probably sitting somewhere in Russia.

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

ok that's nice. they are weaponized by the blue team against half the country, that's barely better than being run by a foreign power that speaks a different language.

[–]twolanterns 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

pro infanticide