Elon Musk suggests “childless” people should lose the right to vote …

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[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think as developed country birth rates decline, it makes sense to subsidize people having children via taxes. What form that takes can be up for debate of course, but the simple issue is that while you should certainly be within your rights to decide whether or not you have kids yourself, kids are necessary for the continuance of society and for supporting you when you reach old age, unless you like the idea of society complete falling apart when you are too old to care (at which point the few kids that are around will simply do whatever they want to you anyway regardless of what is legal if there is nobody around to protect your interests anymore).

Why should I pay $8k a year for Rashandas 5 kids when she pays only $500?

Because the alternative is they don't go to school and become retarded street urchins likely to join a gang and fuck up shit worse than if they are stuck in an indoctrination center most of the week learning how to be factory workers or corporate drones to prop up your lifestyle.

[–]BobOki 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Again I agree we should all pay taxes, I also agree without good schools our already well below world average kids will be even worse, I just do not think childless people or the elderly should have to as much or more than those with children. They already get their child deductions which we pay for, I do not see why those of us without or those that cannot afford it should be basically subsidizing them.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Two reasons. One it needs to be economically viable for people to have and raise children. Otherwise they will not and society will collapse.

Two it is in any democratic societies best interest to have children be educated. And you being a part of society share this same interest. Alternatively we could take a very libertarian approach to education but the result is that you end up with a lot of bored youth who are of course a prime resource for anyone with profit or power motivated ideations to take advantage of.

If there is one socialist ideal that I am in favor of it's public education. Not to say our current system isn't deeply flawed and filled with problems, but a lot of that is because the schools reflect powerful interests rather than the interests of the society they serve at large.

But to put it in very simple terms. I'm happy to pay to have my poor black neighbors kids sent to school. Because in the event that their home life is fucked up beyond belief, that does give them a potential out. And ideally if the kids are in school learning how to make money then the less likely they'll see gangbanging as desirable future.

Now our schools fucking suck at this last point. But that's an issue with crappy schools and not schools inately.