The Auschwitz Death Toll was a Lie.

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[–]stay_hydrated 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

So you don't know how many jews died but insist that it couldn't of been 6 million?

I dont insist it couldnt have been 6 million. It's possible. Just not likely. Unlike you, I'm honest.

What you ignore is that there were 5 million non jews who were also killed by the nazis as well.

I don't know the exact number of this either, and neither do you. The Germans fought a war, they killed a lot of people and had a lot of their people killed. Some of the people they killed were unarmed civilians, and a lot of the Germans killed were unarmed civilians. The exact numbers and manner of deaths of everyone killed I dont know, and neither do you. The issue has been so propagandized that it's extremely difficult to ascertain the exact truth 80 years later. Again, I'm honest about this.

People who would have no reason to promote a "jewish lie".there exists today a compiled database of more than three million names of jewish victims of the holocaust, and it may be as high as 4.2 million names in total.

Actually the people who compiled this list had every reason to promote a lie, and a list of names in and of itself means nothing without evidence proving they were real people and the manner of their deaths.

Your evidence for the 6 million number seems to come from one SS officer who was facing execution and possibly undergoing torture allegedly stating he heard another Nazi SS officer claim 4 million died in camps and 2 million through shooting operations, and this other officer claiming under threat of execution and possibly torture that this was true. You also claim census data supports the 6 million number but the original census figures would have to be accurate and the later census figures would have to account for the massive migration of Jews that undoubtedly happened during the war years and immediately after, the fact after the war many Jews would be reluctant to reveal themselves in a postwar census, the fact birth rates would have plummeted during a time of war and hardship when large numbers of people were detained and segretated, and overall death rates of all causes, including natural causes, would have skyrocketed during the same harsh times. It would also have to account for active soldiers and partisan deaths. That's all a pretty tall order, with a LOT of room for exaggeration and manipulation, especially given the pressure to prove the 6 million number right and the threat of blacklisting and in some cases imprisonment if your numbers didnt arrive at the desired outcome.

[–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

6 million jews and 5 million non jews were killed.Literally no where has that number has changed.What school did you go to where the numbers kept changing?Also where's the evidence the jewish population went up and not down after ww2? https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/holocaust-denial/ http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/02/09/europes-jewish-population/ I'm giving you several sources and you've given nothing.

[–]stay_hydrated 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

6 million jews and 5 million non jews were killed.Literally no where has that number has changed.

Are you not comprehending what I'm writing? That is literally my point. The Holodomor death toll has continually changed and been revised, even in recent years, while the Holocaust number has not.

Also where's the evidence the jewish population went up and not down after ww2?

I never claimed the Jewish population went up during the war, it most likely decreased for the reasons I mentioned in my comment, in addition to whatever number of deaths occurred from Nazi atrocities. Maybe re-read my comment.