The Auschwitz Death Toll was a Lie.

stay_hydrated · 2022-12-18T21:18:58+00:00

6 million jews and 5 million non jews were killed.Literally no where has that number has changed.

Are you not comprehending what I'm writing? That is literally my point. The Holodomor death toll has continually changed and been revised, even in recent years, while the Holocaust number has not.

Also where's the evidence the jewish population went up and not down after ww2?

I never claimed the Jewish population went up during the war, it most likely decreased for the reasons I mentioned in my comment, in addition to whatever number of deaths occurred from Nazi atrocities. Maybe re-read my comment.

stay_hydrated · 2022-12-18T20:57:56+00:00

You argued that making it illegal to question something=It never happened.

No. I didnt argue that. I'm saying it makes it impossible to accurately research such an event.

Holodomor denial is illegal is both Ukraine, and now Germany.

And yet, the established death toll for the Holodomor continually fluctuates, and no one who changes it is prosecuted, while people who question the 6 million number can and I believe have been prosecuted.

Funny,you'd think jewish control germany wouldn't make denial illegal.

Well a mature intelligent democracy with free speech wouldnt necessarily make opposing historical views literally illegal. If someone is wrong you prove them wrong. If a view is way outside the mainstream it shouldnt be taught in history classes, but all people should be taught to think critically and encouraged to question things.

stay_hydrated · 2022-12-18T20:47:22+00:00

So you don't know how many jews died but insist that it couldn't of been 6 million?

I dont insist it couldnt have been 6 million. It's possible. Just not likely. Unlike you, I'm honest.

What you ignore is that there were 5 million non jews who were also killed by the nazis as well.

I don't know the exact number of this either, and neither do you. The Germans fought a war, they killed a lot of people and had a lot of their people killed. Some of the people they killed were unarmed civilians, and a lot of the Germans killed were unarmed civilians. The exact numbers and manner of deaths of everyone killed I dont know, and neither do you. The issue has been so propagandized that it's extremely difficult to ascertain the exact truth 80 years later. Again, I'm honest about this.

People who would have no reason to promote a "jewish lie".there exists today a compiled database of more than three million names of jewish victims of the holocaust, and it may be as high as 4.2 million names in total.

Actually the people who compiled this list had every reason to promote a lie, and a list of names in and of itself means nothing without evidence proving they were real people and the manner of their deaths.

Your evidence for the 6 million number seems to come from one SS officer who was facing execution and possibly undergoing torture allegedly stating he heard another Nazi SS officer claim 4 million died in camps and 2 million through shooting operations, and this other officer claiming under threat of execution and possibly torture that this was true. You also claim census data supports the 6 million number but the original census figures would have to be accurate and the later census figures would have to account for the massive migration of Jews that undoubtedly happened during the war years and immediately after, the fact after the war many Jews would be reluctant to reveal themselves in a postwar census, the fact birth rates would have plummeted during a time of war and hardship when large numbers of people were detained and segretated, and overall death rates of all causes, including natural causes, would have skyrocketed during the same harsh times. It would also have to account for active soldiers and partisan deaths. That's all a pretty tall order, with a LOT of room for exaggeration and manipulation, especially given the pressure to prove the 6 million number right and the threat of blacklisting and in some cases imprisonment if your numbers didnt arrive at the desired outcome.

stay_hydrated · 2022-12-18T00:17:36+00:00

This country is in the middle of a slow motion collapse. The overall quality of life has substantially decreased for everyone but the top 2 or 3% just over the past few decades, and things have been accelerating ever since the W Bush presidency. Things have really gone to shit since the great awokening that began around 2014-15 and the authoritarian turn of the elites since Biden's handlers were installed as president.

When things will turn into a total collapse of all institutions and what comes after is hard to say. The best bet is on some kind of a Jewish run authoritarian state, but we already kind of have that now and people seem to be getting increasingly sick of it even before a collapse, so the Jewish brand name might become too toxic before the final collapse comes for them to completely take over, and I'm not sure they will be able to use their money to just buy power like they have in the past.

stay_hydrated · 2022-12-17T23:56:57+00:00

The red cross number is not really believable for the total holocaust death toll. Clearly far more Jews died than a couple hundred thousand given this war killed 80 million people, including 10-13 million Germans and tens of millions of Eastern Europeans, and Jews were the primary enemies of the Nazis. It's really nonsense to believe the Nazis took such great care to prevent Jewish deaths that such a small number were killed.

Having said that, the 6 million number is clearly inflated and I have never heard a credible rationale for how that number was arrived at that didnt include cherry picked statements by Nazis while ignoring countless other statements and evidence, and including sketchy estimates about census figures before and after the war that further cherry picks evidence while ignoring counter evidence and logical explanations for discrepancies.

So tell us how many Jews were killed by the Nazis during the war? I honestly don't claim to know the real death toll. I would guess between 1.5 million and 4.5 million, but I have no firm way of knowing. I only know the supposed methods used to come up with 6 million are far from definitive and leave a ton of wiggle room for manipulation and exaggeration.

stay_hydrated · 2022-12-17T23:40:57+00:00

How many people have been sent to prison for holodomor denial?

stay_hydrated · 2022-12-17T21:26:30+00:00

Correction: It was actually 4 million that was listed on the entrance to Auschwitz and which was taught. I looked it up. For some reason I remember 4.5 million, but it was 4. Jewish and Holocaust industry "scholars" played stupid when the numbers were changed, but some flat out admitted they knew it was a lie and for a decade kept silent about it anyway. They blamed it all on Poles of course, because Jews never lie.

I never heard a plausible explanation of why the death toll being reduced by 3 million never changed the official 6 million number either. One excuse was that the 4 million lie included 3 million polish deaths, but I dont remember more than a handful of Polish deaths being mentioned when I was taught the 4 million number, so it had been implied that the 4 million were mostly Jews. Yet when it was reduced by 3 million no change to the 6 million number was made and people can still be prosecuted in some countries for disputing it.

stay_hydrated · 2022-12-17T17:32:21+00:00

Not just war casualties, just about every Jew in europe that died of any cause from 1938 to 1945 is probably listed as a holocaust victim.

stay_hydrated · 2022-12-17T15:16:48+00:00

Some Pollock may have said 4 million

4 million was the “official” death toll posted on the entrance and taught to school kids up until 1990 when some brave historians threatened to expose the number and it was quietly changed to 1.1 million and the previous 4 million claim memory holed(despite being cited in encyclopedias prior to 1990).

The fact they were off by 3 million yet never changed the 6 million number is yet more evidence that number is also a lie.

stay_hydrated · 2022-12-13T03:13:14+00:00

His case was so egregious they really had no choice. He will still probably be treated with kid gloves because of his, shall we say, elite ethnic connections. Same goes for his girl Caroline, who might get away with zero charges.

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