Saidit users who aren't "alt-right," why aren't you?

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    [–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (29 children)

    Alt right =/= white supremacist.

    "Alt right" just means people on the political right who refuse to play along with a political party they think is ineffective. This is an organizational / strategic question. It has nothing to do with race.

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      [–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 8 insightful - 7 fun8 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 7 fun -  (23 children)

      You're seriously citing Wikipedia as an objective, accurate source on this? Are you five?

      Call me whatever you want. I have a feeling you'd call me "Alt Right," if only because I believe our "whoever, wherever, whenever" voting system is unreliable and I believe there is a genocidal element in the Democratic Party.

      In any case, I am a social conservative, American nationalist, and center-left on economic issues. I'm married to a black woman.

      There is no home for me in the Republican Party, though I am right wing. It's therefore difficult for me to buy into this vilification of the "Alt Right." We are desperate for a right-wing alternative.

      [–]Dragonerne 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

      Even if you have a black woman as your wife, you would still benefit from alt right policies, because society around you would rapidly improve.

      [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

      The problem is hood culture, not black people. Black people in better areas are not thugs.

      [–]Dragonerne 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      The problem isn't hood culture. The problem is jews.

      But no black people in better areas (read: whiter areas) aren't nice either.

      [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Oh really? Because they're some of the nicest people I know. I'm not talking about white areas that are full of liberals, where hood culture is literally encouraged. I'm talking about suburbs and rural areas where people are actually sane. If you rob Peter to pay Paul you can probably count on having Paul's vote, so black people aren't as common there, but they exist.

      [–]bug-in-recovery 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Black children of millionaires are more likely to go to jail than White children of parents making $20k.

      Race is real.

      [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      By "better areas" I mean areas with good influences, not wealthier places.

      [–]bug-in-recovery 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      lol

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      Thug culture exists in nice areas.

      [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Mm

      [–][deleted]  (12 children)

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        [–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

        What do you mean "nothing specific"?

        I said I am center-left economically. This means I believe in better regulation of business, more responsible (i.e. higher and more progressive) taxes, more infrastructure spending, social programs like public healthcare, and so on.

        I said I am socially conservative. This means I am against "gay marriage," against any special protections or benefits for the non-gender-conforming, and against any normalization of any of that mularkey in schools. Homosexuality and transgenderism are behaviors, not identities, and I want my representatives to share that view.

        I further believe in strong policing and unapologetic incarceration of those who commit crimes against person or property- including tresspassers. To that last point, I want my representatives to give NO mind to the interests of non-citizens. In fact, "America First" ought to be constitutionally enshrined as a legal requirement for anything undertaken by an elected official.

        I think that's all pretty specific, and in keeping with my attempt to describe my beliefs more succinctly. You wanted more detail, fine, but don't pretend I'm just some knuckle-dragger who's too racist for the GOP.

        [–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

        The alt right absolutely hates the GOP, because it is an antiwhite political party beholden to jews. Why is 90% of the top1% in the US jews? Why are jews so vastly overrepresented in ivy league universities? in government? in media etc?

        Whites have zero representation and both parties work together to undermine us. This hurts both whites and nonwhites all around the world.

        [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        It doesn't matter whether it's "the Jews" or not, because the real problem in both cases is the power they're able to gain.

        [–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        But it is the jews. That's the world we live in.

        [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        And that makes a difference how? I'm not going to argue over whether it's the Jews or not, so let's just assume it is for the sake of the argument. If not them, someone else would take their place.

        [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        That's all leftist. The only difference between you and "the left" is being on opposite sides of the fence on social issues, which totally aren't just stupid diversions from the real issues. And you're not as focused on race as they are, which is an improvement.

        [–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Well, there's no political party that approximates my views. What I want is a nationalist, populist movement. Call it what you want, but I find the "alt right" comes closer to that than any other identifiable group.

        And social issues aren't a "stupid diversion" from anything. No one with children could ever believe that.

        [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Yes they are. The plan is to keep people busy with the culture wars so they don't have time to see what the elites are doing. Which is concentrate absurd amounts of power for themselves.

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          [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          No, it's thoroughly alt-right aka leftist. Left-wing economics, authoritarianism, doesn't sound right-wing to me.

          [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          You're "right wing" yet support all leftist causes. You sound more like what the progressive left thinks is right wing.

          [–]Dragonerne 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          Wikipedia would like you to edit this page:

          No, they would not like that. They already banned me and others like me.

          [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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            [–]Dragonerne 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            Why did you say "Wikipedia would like you to edit this page:" when that's not the case?

            Why the lie?

            [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            I've found that "alt-right" usually signifies the European right in America, because the American right couldn't be more different (at least before June 2020).