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[–]makesyoudownvote 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I agree with the sentiment generally, but why are you focusing on Jews specifically?

You realize how that makes the argument seem invalid don't you?

I don't think Robin DiAngelo is Jewish, Bezos isn't Jewish, and neither are any of the dozens of POC authors they push.

Meanwhile people like Ben Shapiro are among the people that most espouse the opposite.

Jewish people are white.

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White traitors are the problem, sure, however you can attack them because of their race however much you want. Not the case with Jews.

Just observe the latest cohenservative talking point about "rich white liberals". Why isn't anyone talking about "rich indian liberals" or "rich jewish liberals"? Both of these groups are both richer and more liberal than whites, but only the syntagma "rich white liberals" is acceptable. You damn well know which one of these three words allows this phrase to be acceptable.

Also Ben Shapiro, much like other cohenservatives and white traitors, is a Zionist bastard who would gladly send billions to his true state, Israel, while denying even the basic healthcare rights to Americans, telling working class people to pull themselves up the bootstraps. Socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor. And oh yeah, he's also a gatekeeper who doesn't believe in European people's right to self-determination.

Finally, Jews aren't white, they will say so themselves. They are only white when they're shitting on "fellow white people".

[–]makesyoudownvote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When people are talking about "rich white liberals" though they are usually including Jews. I get that you don't see it that way, but I promise you, most people born after 1975 see Jewish people as just another shade of white, along with Irish, Italians, Russians etc. There is no more need to separate them from other white liberals than any other group under the "white" umbrella. That's why.

But I see people shit on "rich jewish liberals" all the time. Bill Maher seems to do it on pretty much every other show.

I'll give you the Indian one, though I think that's largely because they haven't permeated politics or industry to a sufficient extent anyone is really hating on them at all. It's usually just jokes about the way they talk and bob their heads.

Jews have also been drifting conservative over the past 20 years, especially religious Jews as opposed to non-practicing or loosely practicing Jews largely because conservatives are generally more supportive of Israel and liberals are more supportive of Palestine, especially after 9/11. They are still by and large Democrats, but it went from 90% down to like 60-75% depending on the polling source.

I'll give you that about Ben Shapiro with the donations to Israel. He's not at all ashamed of it. Just like most Catholics are not ashamed of the fact they pay tithings to the church that fund the Vatican, and a lot of protestant Christians donate to fund missions to convert people across the globe and to fund mega churches.

I mean, most of my Jewish friends definitely consider themselves white. There are situations where they don't I'll give you that. But yeah, they totally do.