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[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

You contradicted yourself a lot of times. I'll have to go through it point-by-point.

MAGA is a lie, stolen from Reagan's campaigns, meant to indicate that these two TV people - as outsiders - could return the US to it's 1950s and early 1960s past, when the benefits of the New Deal and WWII industry allowed for the one-earner family and discrimination against blacks and women. It's a slogan aimed partially at boomers who were born in that period.

No, they're trying to return the 1950s and 60s past when the federal government didn't have near-absolute power and people didn't blindly bow to its authority, and recognized the horrors of communism. They are on the side of the people back then who were not racist or sexist, but rather egalitarian. Not racist or sexist, not reverse racist or sexist, no double standards. By contrast, those demanding reverse discrimination today are following the likes of LBJ and his plot to trap minorities into the Democratic party with socialist propaganda. We had moved past racism and judgement based on skin color for decades, but the radical left had to reignite it again, later causing the right also to return to it in reaction.

It's a lie that the TV personality can drain the swamp and restore the US to a more prosperous time. It's an assumption that the Obama administration ruined the US (albeit with low debt and low unemployment and high growth in industry and big business and Wall Street values). It's a lie that corruption will end (though Trump & family & friends are most corrupt in US history).

He came close to draining the swamp, ever wonder why all the government and media despises him so much while every other corrupt and immoral politician gets a free pass? And the Obama administration expanded government when it was already too big, taking after the previous administration in many respects, and brought back racism after we had moved past that for nearly half a century.

It's entirely focused on the great white(orange) saviour, on ultranationalism, on white supremacy,

That's blatant fake news. No Trump supporter I know of considers his skin color important, nor does Trump himself. As a matter of fact the Trump supporters are actually the conservatives who didn't cave to this new wave of actual racism and sexism and *-phobia that was caused by the 2020 riots.

on the subjucation of women (abortion laws,

Oh come on, abortion has nothing to do with subjugating women and we all know that's just how leftists rewrite the issue to make themselves look like the only moral option. The real debate is over when life begins, nothing to do with women.

packing the supreme court, a big deal for Repugs),

That's Biden and the Democrats who want to pack the court, because it's the only branch they don't have control of right now.

on smaller government and increased authoritarianism

Is that an error, or do you actually think you can accuse them of two opposite things?

(and corporate deregulation and abuses), on "Christian" bigotry, on racism, on homophobia,

That wasn't a thing until the rioting of 2020 literally made them believe in those things. Before that it was found only among a few fringe lolcows who no one wanted anything to do with. Not only that, but the constant liberal slandering caused people who did believe in those things to flock to the GOP because they were falsely told it did too, and the Streisand effect encouraged it among those who were already there and formerly vehemently opposed it.

on class warfare against the 99%, on the superior 1% runing the inferiour 99%, on the notion that the 99% could pull up their bootstraps and become the 1% (never happening), on lower wages,

It's not happening because the government keeps protecting the megacorps with laws and regulations. They get funding, special treatment, and don't have to follow the same regulations as their competition, and in some cases the government even enforces a monopoly for them. I can't even think of a single big business that isn't in full support of the Democrat party. It's Mom & Pop that they're driving into the ground.

on the destruction of govermnent departments that help with education, environment, human rights, social programs,

Because none of those ever work for more than a short time, and always result in burdens of unkeepable regulations and excuses for authoritarianism.

&c, about welfare for the 1%, tax cuts, and about making the 99% pay for those loans, aboud grift, corruption, pay-to-play politics, about money laundering, about offshore accounts, about jerrymandering GOP districts, about Citizens United, about an oligarchy, about international proxy wars, about selling CIA secrets to Saudis and getting CIA operatives and translators in the middle east killed, about making billionnaires of the Kushners and Trumps and a few Russians, about manipulating people into thinking that Twittler is going to save the nation, that authoritarian leaders will look after the nation,

You're describing the Democrats again.

that one should not trust elections (unless Trump wins),

The 2020 election is the only one that was challenged, and for obvious reasons. And remember, when Trump won the left was claiming the election had been stolen then too, so have a taste of your own medicine for once.

that you should assume that everyone on the Hill is the same, that the US is the greatest country on earth (though it lags behind many other nations in poverty, healthcare, education, gun control, mass shootings, etc, etc, etc),

What the media doesn't tell you is how bad other countries actually are with those things. First of all, they rely on the United States to support it all. Second, those countries are authoritarian shitholes where the government has a monopoly on everything and gives you crappy services you can't find alternatives for. They censor you and imprison you for dissent. They tell you what you're going to do all your life. They tell you what you're allowed to believe. You have to wait forever to get all these "free" services, and they suck; but since there's no competition or responsibility when you're the government, they get away with it. And you waste 99% of your money to pay for this. The media slants the statistics to look like paradise, but doesn't tell you this part. Why do you think so many people come here from other countries to get healthcare, education, work, and freedom? If they were really that much better, you'd think it would be the other way around. But no, everyone wants to come to the US. North Korea has free EVERYTHING, but if you want to go to the doctor you have to wait forever, then get a doctor who has no idea what they're doing, and they're so poor you'll have to get your surgery wide awake. And if you dare question the system you disappear to the torture camp where you have to eat scraps of food picked out of shit because the guards are too busy beating you for "hate speech" to feed you.

that the only way to MAGA is to wear a slogan on your hat and be an asshole to 90% of the country. It would take a while to explain the MAGA fascist ideology. You can look it up. It's commonly known.

No, we're all just sick of the swamp and intolerant woke SJWism threatening to turn the US communist, much to the delight of the corrupt politicians who would be in charge of the new regime.

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If there is but a single statement in there that I'd hesitate to defend, it might be the subjugation of women. Women are under attack in current politics, but I'd argue that it's the left and the democrats doing the attacking. Abortion rights and safe spaces are being eliminated, men are the new women and are apparently the better ones according to trans lobbies and sports councils, it's ridiculous. Abortion was never an issue when safe, legal and rare (rare being proportion to the vast overpopulation of the west thanks to massive over breeding and immigration from inferior nations).

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The right is unfortunately attacking them too now. The left has gone so crazy that the right wants to go full blown traditionalism to retaliate, and that includes mandating 1950s gender roles and banning women from voting again. All in the name of God of course, everything is good as long as it has God's name attached to it, right? The name of God is slandered in the nations because of you, as it is written. They're attacking men too.

I don't think the left is really attacking them, I think they just don't care and have disregarded them in favor of tucutes. They are 100% attacking and demonizing men though. To the point where everyone actually thinks all men are rapists and child abusers now.

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It's bizarre that the political polarization has gone to such extremes as to pressure those align themselves with a political side to be required to adhere to all the prompted policies and ideologies associated with them. As a centrist, I detest the idea that we cannot contest a topic if it has a specific political leaning.

Perhaps they have disregarded them, but it seems all too coordinated and bitter. I agree that men have been targeted, but in reputation destruction and through mistrust. We have not had safe spaces removed or sports invaded for example.