Do MAGA misinformation and fascist ideology pose a threat to democracy? Here's a point of view from a historian of radical right politics. (I don't expect others here to like this, but you might find this informative and worthy of discussion or debate.)

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[–]FozzieBear[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks for the thoughtful explanations. This is one of the reasons I visit Saidit - to see how you and others here have been influenced by the past 6 years of politics, and beyond. We obviously don't agree on much of this, and sometimes I wonder where there can be middle ground. Sadly the radicalized and polarized political discourses developed by the right wing have had a lasting impact on you and others, so that it's now much more difficult to find common ground beteen so-called left and right political interests. I've been an independent and a moderate, and veyr much against extremism on the right and left, and what I read here in your comments is a summary of many of the arguments from the right. It's a good summary, in some places. The main problem we have is that these right-wing beliefs work against the 99%, and play into the propaganda ot the 1%. Everything you note here has been in the news at Fox and other right wing propaganda outlets. I'll pick one example, "That's Biden and the Democrats who want to pack the court." Did they? Trump added numerous political hacks to federal courts and 3 hacks to the Supreme Court. It was previously illegal to pack courts with political hacks. The confirmation process for justices was supposed to put a stop to this. It's fascism in it's ideology - to for example - overturn Roe v Wade when 80 or 90% of the country NEVER wanted it. It's anti-democratic.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Absolute democracy is merely a different name for mob rule, and that's as tyrannical as any form of government. That's why the founding fathers were careful to place limits on democratic powers...which we've very much overstepped to our own detriment. In fact, if you care about "minorities", absolute democracy will result in tyranny of the majority and oppression of minorities. So there needs to be a lot of limitation on government power, and the will of "the people" to oppress outsiders. So even if 90% of people don't want Roe vs. Wade overturned (it's nowhere close to that high), it still needs to be overturned for the unborn infants' sakes. Likewise, if 90% of people want you put to death, they're still not allowed.

No one should be forcefully subject to any human institution. It's society's doing that I was born into this awful world, not mine, so I don't owe them anything.