We’re in the End Game Now, and the Deep State Knows It

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[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

  1. Ukraine wasn't going to join NATO until Putin started this in 2014

Oh you mean right after the U.S. backed coup against the democratically elected Ukrainian President and installed a puppet ruler?

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

There's absolutely zero evidence of that and masses of evidence of the opposite - it was a revolution of dignity, not a coup. A return to elections that yanukovic had cancelled.

And to preempt- I've read the transcript of the hacked call of the American ambassador and it doesn't say what the Russian trolls claim it does.

If the 2014 return to elections was really a coup, why the hell did they install a chocolatier? One who couldn't even win the next election? Against a Jewish "banderite" who was in deep cover as a successful charismatic TV personality? Spare me the contrived althistory. It was not a coup.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Sure, and the Crimean and Donbass votes to join Russia are all fake. How's that koolaid taste? Any hint of cyanide yet?

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Crimean and Donbass votes to join Russia

Just curious what you're imagining when you say that. Like, are you imagining that people were handed a ballot with a Ukraine box and a Russia box, and they ticked Russia?

Go on, please, humour me - before you go and check the circumstances - what do you imagine was the topic of voting in Donbass and Crimea? What was on the ballot in your imagining

Edit - and you forgot to provide proof that 2014 was a coup and not a revolution of dignity

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's very cute how you waltz around the fact that Ukraine has been executing a genocide against the ethnic Russians of Eastern Ukraine. That's one inconvenient fact that your fiction can't account for.

Very cute.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So are you admitting you were wrong about the revolution of dignity and the phoney vote and that's why you're changing the topic? Ok, no I don't think Ukraine has been genociding russians in eastern Ukraine. Because the UN, the EU, all the world's media, sundry observers and NGOs have been asking to come and observe evidence of this supposed genocide and have been denied entry. Which to me is a very strong sign that they're just making it up for propaganda....so after you couldn't provide evidence for the 'coup' narrative and were wrong about the phoney vote, should I expect you have ANY evidence at all for this alleged genocide?

And actually, if genocide really bothered you and wasn't just a talking point, wouldn't you be equally concerned about the Russians carrying out a genocide of what they consider to be a 'fake' people? It's happening right now, why arent you bothered? Not very cute.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You support genocide. End of story.

[–]Site_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I just told you I don't believe it's happening. Not the same thing. Don't you think Russia would have white hats there in a heartbeat if it was real? By the way I can't help but notice how you slipped over providing proof 2014 was a coup, skipped providing proof that the votes were legit and skipped providing any proof of this alleged genocide