Where are all the conservative socialists in the West?

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[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

a strong, nationalist leader

Is only ever a figurehead.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Genghis Khan was a figurehead huh. Damn.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Genghis Khan was a figurehead huh.

Yes he was.

Without his legions of followers, establishment systems, political landscape, and various opportunities, he would have been just a solo rampaging lunatic if he wanted to slaughter throngs of people. He didn't just decide to do that on a madman's whim though - the political climate, opportunities, and support were there and he with his trusted advisors navigated their conquests.

If you don't see than then you are just another megalomaniac idol worshiper in the cult of personality.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Again you are coming back with collectivistic, nihilistic and borderline communist rhetoric. "There is no leader. The proletariat is leading."

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Again you are coming back with collectivistic, nihilistic and borderline communist rhetoric. "There is no leader. The proletariat is leading."

Bullshit.

I'm saying the ruling class is leading.

And I'm pointing out that regardless whoever the fuck is "in charge" - there's always a mob with a system supporting them. They just happen to be at the front, but they sure aren't heroically steering the whole thing themselves.