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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Who else is going to help them change their situation if they just get abandoned by their best and brightest?

What if they don't listen to their best and brightest and attempts to use force are blocked by the western empires?

[–]Chipit[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Change comes from inside. If a society's top 5% all abandon their own people, their nations will never improve. It's a form of cultural imperialism, robbing developing countries of their intellectual capital. Of course, the western empires don't want these countries to get better, they want them to wallow in eternal poverty and war.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

If a society's top 5% all abandon their own people, their nations will never improve.

If a society's top 5% all abandon their own people, they can form a new nation. Pretending that some aggressive non-relatives you have nothing in common with are connected to you through being a part of the same imaginary entity only works when these non-relatives don't actively try to destroy everything you create.

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

It's selfish, cruel, and abandons vulnerable people to continue a cycle of ignorance and violence. More to the point, it allows continued exploitation of resources by western colonialists. India didn't stand up and become independent by Ghandi leaving to teach philosophy in Paris.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Letting people live in accordance with their nature is cruel? Focusing on providing the best guidance for those who depend on us is selfish? How can one possibly abandon something one doesn't own? Heavens can be called cruel, but they are hardly selfish, and will outlast anything we create.

Africa already has its independence, it doesn't want to change its culture. India has spent millennia being the center of the planet, you'll have a chance to experience a reconstruction of its fall, soon.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Stealing the best and brightest from brown people countries for the benefit of white people countries is racist and evil. End of story.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Stealing? I thought they've lost the right to own people when the British Empire decided to ban slavery.

Sometimes, when two parts of a nation accumulate too many differences, they may split into two different nations. It happens.

Long distance travelling is natural for humans, there is nothing unnatural with leaving one's country. Especially when your country doesn't support you at all.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Super. Now not only are you advocating for the racist colonizers, you're arguing for their right to keep other nations in poverty. What a gem you are. They must love you at the KKK meetings.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

They must love you at the KKK meetings.

Democrats believe one's rights should change based on race, that the state should decide one's race, and that attempts to change one's race should be punished. Doubt we'd get along.

arguing for their right to keep other nations in poverty

I agree that many nations would be much better off left along. But you insistence on seeing people as a property of some arbitrarily defined organization is unhealthy. If your group wants you dead, and some other group welcomes you, could it be that your group isn't yours?

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You are deliberately misrepresenting my arguments and putting words in my mouth. Your arguments are dishonest. There's no point to arguing with you. There's no changing the minds of neo-colonialists strip-mining brown countries of their best and brightest.