15 dollars/hr wage. So if I ask for more money at my job because the mega-corporation that tax dodges who runs it is making record profits...it is MY fault if they fire all the humans to hire robots so they can make 3X the profit to tax dodge?

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

You're asking to make everyone who's worth less than your minimum wage unemployable. So, yes, it's your fault.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Nope. And nice way to incorporatize the worth of a person, lol. Not at all libertardian. FED needs to go first. My grandmother should be making 104,000 dollars now what she was making in 1950. Her same position, people are now making 45,000 - 55,000. Again, keep spewing your incorporated fictions and stagnating wages further as Zio corporatists screw you in their incorporated fictional land of idiocy.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

And nice way to incorporatize the worth of a person, lol. Not at all libertardian.

Libertardians know that the value of anything is subjective and changes depending on the observer and situation. Tax on wealth is not a libertardian idea.

My grandmother should be making 104,000 dollars now what she was making in 1950.

If people want higher wages, why do they keep voting for people who promise to lower wages and increase unemployment?

FED needs to go first.

So, you're trying to make people homeless and unemployed to accelerate the collapse? Doubt.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, just pump indepedent treasury silver certificates backed by silver and build holding houses. Eventually everyone will use them. It's better than manufactured cyclical doldrums and then having thr banks pass credit off as money.

Or better, restore to a mathematically sound economy.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If people want higher wages, why are they keep voting for people who promise to lower wages and increase unemployment?

It's called inflation and purchasing power.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

They want more immigration than economy can support, more regulations than a head can process, to waste money on lovecraftian madness and to destroy the system of education because... inflation and purchasing power?

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Why are you conflating both as one and making a strawman out of it... good bye. Don't waste my time. Regulations are fine, if they work to inhibit corporations from offshoring and help to prevent ways in which they can get away with not paying taxes.

The small businesses are being hounded and taken over by parasitic mammon lovers. Why? Because someone controls the US corp and it ain't the small business owners.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Nope, it's just economics.

I mean it's best not to do a job which can be easily done by a brainless machine in the first place. That part probably is partly your fault.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nope. Mammon worshiper.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You aren't asking for more money when you propose to raise the minimum wage. You are demanding that no one is allowed to work for less than that. It's a legal barrier to everyone.

Realistically all it does is drive inflation up, lowering everyone's purchasing power. So all you are doing is lowering the quality of life for everyone who makes more than the current minimum wage.

I would support a min wage increase only if it were fixed to inflation because that would force a fundamental financial change or cause hyperinflation and a collapse of the currency. But as it stands the minimum wage is nothing more than a tool to drive inflation.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No, not really. It doesn't drive up inflation if it is fixed to inflation as many democraps suppose, at least in many states it should be. But they suppose a fix every other year where as I maintain a fix every day. It will just have to come out of the pockets of mamon worshipers so the middle class doesn't fall into dirt poverty and can feel comfortable not having to survive by worshipping mammon like the rich do. Yes, I demand that it is criminal that someone can work for such low wages and be exploited to do so, immigrant or US citizen;Worker in China or the US.

I would support a min wage increase only if it were fixed to inflation because that would force a fundamental financial change or cause hyperinflation and a collapse of the currency. But as it stands the minimum wage is nothing more than a tool to drive inflation.

Exactly, I thought that fact was to be understood. Yes.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Literally no one pushing for raising the minimum wage ever talks about pinning it to inflation. The elites who push it as a way to lower real wages across the board absolutely do not want that, and the useful idiots are too stupid to think it up themselves.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I literally have a news paper here and four democraps have said that they would pin it on a yearly or every two year cyclical basis to inflation.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

First off what a politician says should be disregarded entirely. They will literally write a bill to great fanfare that they know can't pass, then vote directly against whatever they claim to be for. Stop falling for that bullshit.

Make every proposal include pinning it to inflation or STFU.

Second, minimum wage increases are the carrot that democrats use to herd their flock of sheep. They are absolutely not going to give that up by creating a permanent solution. That is not how any of this works.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure, yes, Agreed.