Sen. Rand Paul Has Fiery Debate With George Stephanopoulos: “You say we’re all liars. You just simply say we’re all liars.”...“In Wisconsin, tens of thousands of absentee votes had only the name on them and no address. Historically those were thrown out, this time they weren’t."

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Absolutely. In the early 20th century there were US publishers specializing in a daily stream of disinformation, prompting the need for the FCC Mayflower Decision in 1941 and the FCC fairness doctrine in 1949. The latter sadly expired during the Reagan Administration, and now there is a substantial portion of the US population who genuinely believe the "opinions" of extreme right wing lies. Some of these people are on Saidit. I am here to see where there can be any potential middle ground with these people, and in many cases it's impossible to find that common ground. I also want to understand their points of view. Sometimes this is exhausting. (Perhaps the reason for so few people at this website.)

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

I remember when GOP misinformation was telling us tobacco did not cause cancer. They have had many other lies as well. But the tobacco issue for me is a prime example of what the GOP has been. They will get us killed us just to make rich people richer: covid, aids, tobacco, lead, seat belts...

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Indeed - and trickle down economics, regulation is socialism, they want to take our freedom, antifa, fake news, stop the steal, MAGA, &c, &c. There are so many of these. I am reminded of the cartoon with the group of snails about to vote for a pile of salt. Perhaps if a 'logic' course were required in primary school, we could see fewer people falling for this. But the real problem seems to be the radicalization of many voters in the US, thanks to years of these lies.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

I just hope the mainstream of the left doesn't get more idiotic. Something like all 'Republicans are pedophiles'. Or 'all GMO foods are poisonous'. Parts of the left are vulnerable. I seen it with 9/11 truth.

I wish the GOP wasn't an idiot party. I wish the Democrats had to compete against a competent pro-science and pro-equity party. Also many states remain controlled by Republicans. That and Republicans can gain control of the federal government again. I don't want the idiot part of America calling the shoots.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

You've seen Cass Sunstein lies. Anything that tries to discredit 9/11 truth with space beam theories, aliens, or grifters hooked on cocaine; there were plenty of disinfo agents pushing drugs on the community many years ago, was likely cooked up by Sunstein, a Zionist Jew.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

If Jews were as manipulative as you say they are, you would say the world is secretly ran by greedy Nazis.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No, the Jewish owned press (statistical fact) says that secret Nazis run the world, in fact, Nazis are everywhere according to them. But if Nazis are everywhere why haven't they arrested the press?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The scapegoat of your delusional world would not be Jews if Jews were as manipulative as you say they are.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not Jews, it's Zionists who are Jewish and certain chabadniks who are married into the families of every president since Reagan; the age in which the neocon Jews rose to power as a warlike tribe honing to scapegoat Esau and succeeded in doing so.

Stop with your fallacies. Your conflating the criminal sect of Jews with Jewry as a whole. Whether they reject Christ or not, I don't claim Jews as a whole are to be blamed for the crimes certain Jews commited on 9/11, you, however, want me to. Why would that be?

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

By the way, STOP CONFLATING ALL JEWS, with those particularly sect of criminal Jews who did 9/11 and own the press.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Nazi-light? Same holocaust fun with half of the embarrassment?

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Typical, Zionist rhetoric. Still covering for the criminality of a subset in Jewry, why?

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    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Lowy, Eisenberg, Silverstein, Lauder, Spitzer, FBI's TwinBomb investigation; all suspects were and are Jewish Zionists.

    I'm mad that you believe the Straussian myth that muslims were responsible. You mine as well book an interview with the Zionist Howard Stern. He'll tell you whose responsible and with ruthless, blood-boiling sociopathic zeal, cry out in admiration for the bombing of innocents.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Agreed - I remember the "yellow dog Democrats" of the '70s. But Neoliberalism has also failed. There will have to be somewhat of a 'radical' response to 40 years of the radical Republican fleecing of the 99%, but I agree that this could be done badly if ultra-left-wing approaches are considered. Hell, there are some former Bernie supporters who are now calling themselves anarchists. Insane.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah. A facility that can produce 300 million vaccines per month would not be built under a libertarian idea of utopia. But we need one. I think that is one reason why they are covid-deniers. A pandemic requires a different economic approach from normal. Even the Russian Communist Party is in covid denial because their economic plan doesn't account for pandemics.

    I am not sure if "ultra-left-wing" is always bad. Like it seems ultra-left-wing to simply accept trans people. And if McDonald's were employee owned, I don't promise on my wife's grave that would be ideal, but it wouldn't be the end of the world. I just want some sanity.