Sen. Rand Paul Has Fiery Debate With George Stephanopoulos: “You say we’re all liars. You just simply say we’re all liars.”...“In Wisconsin, tens of thousands of absentee votes had only the name on them and no address. Historically those were thrown out, this time they weren’t."

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[–]official_disclaimer 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

A true journalist should not push an agenda but should ask questions.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (22 children)

A true journalist questions disinformation and misinformation, as has happened here. There aren't two sides to the facts. There are two sides of arguments about the election process, which is not ideal.

[–]Feldheld 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Spreading misinformation isnt "questioning disinformation". Hardly anything of what this "journalist" said was true. There is plenty of evidence for election fraud, and the most important proof that the election was indeed stolen is the total unwillingness in all the affected swing-states to expose the ballots and the voting machines to a non-partisan audit.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

If it was "stolen" then why won't R. Paul say so? Because it wasn't technically "stolen". This is a fact.

And as we and Stephanopoulos know, elections are problematic. Do you think all of the votes for Trump were appropriate votes?

Note that Trump also didn't get the popular vote in 2016. The Electoral College "stole" the election for him in 2016.

Yes, we need election reform, and have needed since the time of electronic voting machines. This is not what R. Paul was asked about.

[–]chadwickofwv 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

That would be because the gulag is currently being prepared for anyone who is willing to state that they believe the election was stolen, and Rand Paul is fully aware of that fact.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Lol

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

FFS

[–]Feldheld 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Trump did not get the electoral college in 2016 for the same reason he lost 2020 due to election fraud. In the densely populated Democrat strongholds the whole voting infrastructure is strictly in Democrat hands and GOP or independent observers are too few to begin with and even those few are routinely prevented from doing their job. This allows fraud on a massive scale since nobody has the power to stop it, and no judge has the balls to expose himself to the media / social media mob. Biden didnt even get 60 million legal votes. Legally, Trump would have won by a landslide.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Corporate shill news companies that have repeated this lie on a regular basis should be required to put OPINION in red letters over the faces of the crooks telling you this nonsense. The reason Trump's lawyers lost every case is because they had NO FUCKING EVIDENCE. If you sent that asshat money, he's keeping it. His lawyers are complaining that they've not been paid.

[–]TheJamesRocket 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The reason Trump's lawyers lost every case is because they had NO FUCKING EVIDENCE.

How about no? There have been 63 lawsuits filed over the Elections, which made allegations of vote fraud.

Of the 63 lawsuits dismissed, NONE has been granted discovery.

Of the 63 lawsuits dismissed, NONE has had a review of the fraud at hand.

Of the 63 lawsuits dismissed, they were dismissed on: no injury (there is no injury yet), no standing (you're not a party to the injury), or mootness (should have filed earlier).

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

And to your last point - NO MERIT.

Eg. "A federal appeals court in Pennsylvania has delivered a strongly worded repudiation of Donald Trump’s latest attempt to overturn his presidential election defeat, dismissing his challenge to the state’s results as without merit."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/27/trump-voter-fraud-lawsuit-rejected-pennsylvania-court

[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So you don't dispute the point in question? Good.

The Judges were uniformly acting in an extremely partial manner by dismissing all of the lawsuits out of hand, without even bothering to examine whether they had any merit.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

FFS. Trump & lawyers are committing fraud by raising money for frivolous lawsuits that don't have the merit (NO FUCKING EVIDENCE) to be heard in court.

Some of those judges are GOP appointees.

[–]Feldheld 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Thats a blunt lie.

None of these judged even dared looking at the evidence. All these cases were thrown out by some "standing" argument which is a judges way of saying "Im too cowardly to take the responsibility for something as big this".

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes - they did - and found that the lawsuit had NO MERIT. The lawauits were reviewed. They were deemed unworthy of a court hearing, because they NEVER INCLUDED APPROPRIATE EVIDENCE.

[–]Feldheld 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well, what else could you do other than keep lying and doubling down. Lies are what your whole world is built upon.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No need to be infantile. How it is lie? To repeat a comment elsewhere in this thread:

Are you a lawyer? Do you know a lawyer? Are you repeating what R. Paul said? Could R. Paul be misleading you?

Discovery is not necessary in the preparatory stage of a civil procedure. There are several steps before discovery is necessary.

Most of those lawsuits were obviously not ready for discovery because they contained no reasonable evidence. This is commonly known.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

No election has been legitimate since the DNC and GOP have been selecting candidates under private corporate status. Although, the electoral college is there for the farming community and so a majority doesn't vote in a potato.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, we had a potato a few years ago. Trump's activities have now made him look like an OK guy (though I don't agree).

[–]slushpilot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think "was it stolen" is an unfair and propagandistic question, obviously trying to paint Mr. Paul into the same corner as those who chanted "stop the steal" while tearing through the capitol.

Actually, it's fine to ask it from that standpoint as a set-up, but then allow the guest answer in his own words to expand the conversation from that narrow position. Personally I'd rather have the "news" stay above the divisive sloganeering like calling it a "steal". Turning every issue into us vs. them only serves to narrow the discourse. ("You're lying" / "no you are" ... wow, thanks for your insight.)

Sen. Paul basically said that he voted for confirmation, but there are questions that remain, and must be answered for the sake of future elections. Because if people don't believe in the elections, then what's the point... I think that discussion is actually far more important than whether 10,000 votes in some state would have been enough: that's not really the point.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, I agree these are important points. I've been following the approaches of R. Paul and Stephanopoulos for years, and I see this interview as an important moment between them. Stephanopoulos is known for questioning the validity of a politician's points, but he rarely continues after the first attempt. He - like many others in the MSM - give politicians platforms to say whatever they want without questioning them in a persistent manner. That changed with R. Paul because R. Paul is now trying to puch the partly strategy to shift the conversation toward GOP as the victims of evil Dems (which is utter bullshit). Paul is a gaslighting master, and should be questioned properly, as has happened.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Correct socks!

[–]SilenceThem_Consume 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"The president lied this election was not stolen" - This is a journalist SAYING This.

No one has even audited the machines. Here are 5 articles on how easy to hack they are

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54378960

https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-a-data-security-expert-fears-u-s-voting-will-be-hacked-11587747159

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-08/expensive-glitchy-voting-machines-expose-2020-hacking-risks

https://www.pri.org/stories/2020-08-17/relying-electronic-voting-machines-puts-us-risk-security-expert-says

In this one, 10 year olds change votes on these machines:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/aug/22/us-elections-hacking-voting-machines-def-con

"And here's ES&S (one of the big vendors of voting machines) leaking hundreds of THOUSANDS of voter's personal data!!!!

This dumb journalist can't make a statement like that unless these machines had been fully audited, which they have NOT been.

And there are NO safeguards to stop foreign nationals from working on the machines themselves, or updating the machines, these things are LAUGHABLY easy to hack.

And maybe the two parties want it that way.

Whether they cheated trump with the machines or not- I think they CERTAINLY used them against Bernard in the primaries. Both years.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

codemonkeyX showed fractional vote counting as well, from source code

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    [–]RuckFeddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes.

    [–]wuzizname 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    America, seriously, y'all need to fix your elections. It's not 1900 anymore, people have verified state issued IDs for like everything, don't use machines that can be rigged, hand count paper ballots it's not that hard.

    [–]Nightjar 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Powers that be do not want us to fix our elections.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (50 children)

    So rand paul follows his 'im not a liar' with a lie.

    [–]Feldheld 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

    And youre not even willing to quote the alleged lie.

    Your comment shows the intellectual state of leftists in a nutshell. Your whole world view is a building of lies and you know it so all you got left is yell 'liar' at everybody who exposes your lies, like a 3 year old.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

    Wisconsin was stolen is a lie.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

    Was it?

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

    No.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

    I didn't think so. Because all elections have been fraudulent since the selction process of candidates for the DNC and GOP & c., is done by FOR-PROFIT private corporations. Most funded be Jews with ties to Israel, another, statistical fact. Fortunately, because Adelson is dead, maybe the GOP will start to side with pro-American advocates—make AIPAC a foreign agent and then we'll get cooking.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

    Nope. The GOP will kiss Zionist ass way more that the Democrats will. That is why Netanyahu always comes over here and attempts to make the Republican the president. Fact.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

    Nope, the democrats largest funders were Zionists as were the republicans. Biden is a life-long friend of Netanyahu a self-admitted Zionist for 37 years and Harris married into a pro-Chabadnik family. Largest dual-Israeli base, democrats... largest funding of Zionist causes republicans, nevertheless, both bow down to Israel.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    Trump was Netanyahu's bitch. Obama knew Netanyahu was supposed to be Obama's bitch. So Netanyahu usually dislikes Democrats.

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

    True. Obama did nothing for the American whose enemy has always been the foreign state of Israel. The only thing I sort of agreed with was the Iran deal but Biden appointed nearly an entire cast of Zionist Jews and has been friends with Netanyahu for 37 years. Both he and Harris are also fervently anti-BDS.

    [–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    the guy is incapable of self reflection. Perfect leftist prole/drone

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (28 children)

    Yes - and an important point by Stephanopoulos is that there are not two sides to facts. And R. Paul cannot bring himself to say that the election was stolen. His comments in the Senate on this matter were very good - that the Senate should not interfere with the States' elections. His right wing colleagues not only agreed with this, but were impressed with it, and with Romney's comment about telling people the truth. R. Paul wants to shift the discussion to criticisms of the states, and criticism of Stephanopoulos for merely restating the facts of the court cases. We'll see R. Paul position himself in the next 4 years to be a GOP candidate for president. To do this, he'll tow the party line, which includes sowing distrust in the MSM, sowing distrust in election processes that don't favor the GOP, and constantly lying.

    [–]Iam1ofMany 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    “The great enemy of truth is very often not the lie--deliberate, contrived and dishonest--but the myth--persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. Too often we hold fast to the cliches of our forebears. We subject all facts to a prefabricated set of interpretations. We enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.

    [Commencement Address at Yale University, June 11 1962]”

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Indeed - and the great enemy of truth is also the 'lie', as it develops the myths, some of which Paul uses.

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Straussian noble lie become public myths as facts to be perpetuated forever. In fact, the neocons are fond of the great noble lie myth.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (24 children)

    The GOP can't be a party of truth at this time. They have to pretend that they love their white voters while passing laws that actually show contempt for the majority of their base. A critical component of garnering support is using wedge issues to paint democrats as gay communist muslims.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

    Absolutely. In the early 20th century there were US publishers specializing in a daily stream of disinformation, prompting the need for the FCC Mayflower Decision in 1941 and the FCC fairness doctrine in 1949. The latter sadly expired during the Reagan Administration, and now there is a substantial portion of the US population who genuinely believe the "opinions" of extreme right wing lies. Some of these people are on Saidit. I am here to see where there can be any potential middle ground with these people, and in many cases it's impossible to find that common ground. I also want to understand their points of view. Sometimes this is exhausting. (Perhaps the reason for so few people at this website.)

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I remember when GOP misinformation was telling us tobacco did not cause cancer. They have had many other lies as well. But the tobacco issue for me is a prime example of what the GOP has been. They will get us killed us just to make rich people richer: covid, aids, tobacco, lead, seat belts...

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

    I remember when GOP misinformation was telling us tobacco did not cause cancer. They have had many other lies as well. But the tobacco issue for me is a prime example of what the GOP has been. They will get us killed us just to make rich people richer: covid, aids, tobacco, lead, seat belts...

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

    Indeed - and trickle down economics, regulation is socialism, they want to take our freedom, antifa, fake news, stop the steal, MAGA, &c, &c. There are so many of these. I am reminded of the cartoon with the group of snails about to vote for a pile of salt. Perhaps if a 'logic' course were required in primary school, we could see fewer people falling for this. But the real problem seems to be the radicalization of many voters in the US, thanks to years of these lies.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

    I just hope the mainstream of the left doesn't get more idiotic. Something like all 'Republicans are pedophiles'. Or 'all GMO foods are poisonous'. Parts of the left are vulnerable. I seen it with 9/11 truth.

    I wish the GOP wasn't an idiot party. I wish the Democrats had to compete against a competent pro-science and pro-equity party. Also many states remain controlled by Republicans. That and Republicans can gain control of the federal government again. I don't want the idiot part of America calling the shoots.

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    You've seen Cass Sunstein lies. Anything that tries to discredit 9/11 truth with space beam theories, aliens, or grifters hooked on cocaine; there were plenty of disinfo agents pushing drugs on the community many years ago, was likely cooked up by Sunstein, a Zionist Jew.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

    If Jews were as manipulative as you say they are, you would say the world is secretly ran by greedy Nazis.

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    No, the Jewish owned press (statistical fact) says that secret Nazis run the world, in fact, Nazis are everywhere according to them. But if Nazis are everywhere why haven't they arrested the press?

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    By the way, STOP CONFLATING ALL JEWS, with those particularly sect of criminal Jews who did 9/11 and own the press.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Agreed - I remember the "yellow dog Democrats" of the '70s. But Neoliberalism has also failed. There will have to be somewhat of a 'radical' response to 40 years of the radical Republican fleecing of the 99%, but I agree that this could be done badly if ultra-left-wing approaches are considered. Hell, there are some former Bernie supporters who are now calling themselves anarchists. Insane.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah. A facility that can produce 300 million vaccines per month would not be built under a libertarian idea of utopia. But we need one. I think that is one reason why they are covid-deniers. A pandemic requires a different economic approach from normal. Even the Russian Communist Party is in covid denial because their economic plan doesn't account for pandemics.

    I am not sure if "ultra-left-wing" is always bad. Like it seems ultra-left-wing to simply accept trans people. And if McDonald's were employee owned, I don't promise on my wife's grave that would be ideal, but it wouldn't be the end of the world. I just want some sanity.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Antifa is pro-Israel, mind you. Antifa is most definitely a controlled opposition and has connections to the neocons.

    radicalization of many voters in the US, thanks to years of these lies.

    Unified division. That's the trick. Unify the division. And here I thought Balkanization was only used in foreign affairs.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    OK - though I there are many anti-fascists who also protest for a "free Palestine". Israeli abuses of Palestinians are a major concern for many anti-fascists. This is one reason Jewish fasist Trump speech writers have focused on creating the term 'antifa' and trying to associate it with violence, and the MSM have rebroadcast this 'antifa'/violence rhetoric, thus implicitly supporting those claims.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Yes. But remember that Antifa has thte same logo as the communist party of Germany who fought against the National Socialists and had many connections to the Soviets but Nazis are not controlling the US government. We have to also remember that Fascism isn't some monolith just as Jewry isn't a monolith. We have humanist Jews like Said, Shahak and whistleblower Vanunu, now a converted Christian and progressive labour Zionists like Ben Gurion, Right-wing Fascist Zionists like the Likud and all kinds of Communist Zionists as well as Stalinist Zionists.

    I'm only making the case that National Socialists eventually fought on the side of Palestine and supplied them with weapons. They also fled to Egypt and helped them build their rocket programs.

    You have to remember too, because National Socialists were so opposed to Bolshevism and eventually Zionism, Zionists were able to pick up a lot of the NS tactics that they could then use to maintain their land grabs in Palestine.

    Jewish fasist Trump speech writers have focused on creating the term 'antifa' and trying to associate it with violence, and the MSM have rebroadcast this 'antifa'/violence rhetoric, thus implicitly supporting those claims.

    No, it's just a fools game. The members of Antifa, which are largely Jewish as were the original Antifa organizations allied with communists, curiously, could also be considered to have fascist tendencies. Because ANTIFA is so pro-Israel, it appears that that organization as it exists today is merely a honey pot.

    For reference: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsnoRtQXAAAQbkZ.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsnoRuEXMAEX7-F.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Esm9LpfXAAEBWl6.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsNizu1W4AIoYHf.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_banners/1353206464710664192/1611528181

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsNfpLHXUAEK2tm.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsNkCaMW8AAFHVo.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsNpYHpXIAAutFS.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsNbzmRXcAASoX2.png

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsIqDbfXEAAgBAM.jpg

    Also, keep in mind the PERESTROIKA DECEPTION. That is, Nazbols (National Bolsheviks) fronting the Palestinian cause. That doesn't mean Palestinians are communists or anything like that, just that the leadership is being fronted by Bolsheviks who again had many Zionists in their ranks at one point in time. Research the founding of Hamas for reference.

    But in regards to ANTIFA. Just because they are 'attacked' as such does not mean we should then assume they are the truth. Nothing is new under the sun. Whatever, the case may be, we have to assume Nazis are not in power because it is quite obvious they are not in power. And ZioFascism was a means to scapegoat other types of fascism, destroy decentralized democracy in localities, especially with Schwab's 4IR agenda, and work to prop up Jewish Zionist interests.

    ANTIFA isn't pro-Palestine but many anti-fascists are pro-Palestine, just as, interestingly, many self-admited National Socialists were and are, though there are few in number today.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I wonder who applied that logo. A big mistake to let one's local anti-fascist movement get the wrong logo. Thanks for the info.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    ANTIFA

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo7zCNTW8AAxZSW?format=jpg&name=small

    ANTIFA destroys BLM movement; infiltrates it with Zionists. FOUNDER of BLM, assassinated, stated that those US police forces should ABSOLUTELY BE defunded who train with foreign militaries such as the IDF. Logical. No?

    ANTIFA is full of goons, and young folks with nothing to do. But it was always Zionist controlled and communist from its inception.

    AntiFa in Washington D.C. singing "No Trump, No KKK, No fascist USA" against 'The Proud Boys', a pro-Zionist faux pro-white controlled opposition, while holding a shield with the wording 'Jews will replace you'.

    https://twitter.com/RogowskiBubba/status/1337905476038778883?

    You cannot make this up BUT THEY CAN!

    Moral of the story:

    Both antifa and proud boys are co-opted movements full of useful idiots that cover any real revolutionary movement in feces; compartmentalizing narratives for the public and media.

    Both sides are political tools of the Hegelian Dialectic.

    Of course, 'the right' might be using Saul Alinsky tactics as the left does. Might not be a bad idea to infiltrate antifa with Jewish supremacist and crazy left wing signs. Like Alinskites go to GOP events with nazi signs.

    The origins of ANTIFA, however, tell a different story.

    Ask Vladislav Surkov. The same game has been played on America.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P9AzCDGNww0&feature=youtu.be YouTube

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    white voters

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Rand paul is acting under the corporate personhood of the US corp.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    his name is based on a lie lol ayn rand, a grifter that took social security money

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    you are all liars

    [–]chadwickofwv 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

    Right back at you commie.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    bet you think trump will be prez again on March 4th

    [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    why march 4th?

    [–]Zapped 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I think this has gotten lost in the conversation: Stephanopoulos was Bill Clinton's communications director and has long standing deep connections to the Democrat Party. This was pulled straight from Wikipedia:

    "Stephanopoulos donated $25,000 in 2012, 2013, and 2014, a total of $75,000, to the Clinton Foundation, but did not disclose the donations to ABC News, his employer, or to his viewers.[36] Stephanopoulos failed to reveal the donations even on April 26, 2015, while interviewing Peter Schweizer, the author of Clinton Cash, a book which alleges that donations to the Foundation influenced some of Hillary Clinton's actions as Secretary of State."

    He is not an impartial journalist. He, like many, does indeed interject himself into the story with personal bias.

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      [–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Every vote counts.

      especially the fake ones, amirite?

      [–]369 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      The Blue Bird is fully fledged.

      You're not allowed to think that.