Dennis Prager: “There Is No Example of the Left Having Power and Not Suppressing Speech – Free Speech Is Its Dire Enemy”

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[–]HarlanRogers 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I'm starting to think the problem is less to do with left and right and more to do with those cocksure in their own virtue and self-righteousness to the point of self-stagnation.

Sadly this leads to the issue that those who are cocksure often tend to get their visions realised far more than those who are reserved and dominate the landscape.

[–]magnora7 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

more to do with those cocksure in their own virtue and self-righteousness to the point of self-stagnation.

This is exactly it. And I think part of it is that in this era in history, for the first time ever, we're drowning in more information than we can handle. And the way a lot of people try to figure who is correct is by who sounds the most confident, because there's not enough time to actually dig through the information and properly consider it all, because there's basically infinite information now. So it's become all about appearances.

[–]RatherSmallPotato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

who sounds the most confident

This has always been the case and always will be.

[–]ballooon 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's also easier to find information that confirms our biases. I believe this makes us feel well-informed enough to subconsciously avoid extra information, as if we are trying to prevent overload.

[–]Zapped 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well said. I hadn't thought of it that way. I think the Dunning-Kruger effect only applies to the vocal followers (well, maybe some leaders). Paralysis by analysis, somewhat. Too much noise.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes the self-reflecting people are sorting through near-infinite information, while the loud people are making moves and having conviction (even if unwarranted). So the world is being gradually shaped to more reflect those who lack self-reflection, because they're the ones making moves.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Why do you care if they self-stagnate? Why is it sad? Sounds like jealousy.

If you're going to post on a post-woke internet board, the left and right is everything unless you're delusional. That's why these reddit clones exist, no?

Speaking of cocksure, self-righteous and arrogant to boot, you know Warren Buffet once was quoted as saying the following:

"I'm going to buy hamburgers the rest of my life. When hamburgers go down in price, we sing the 'Hallelujah Chorus' in the Buffett household. When hamburgers go up in price, we weep. For most people, it's the same with everything in life they will be buying — except stocks. When stocks go down and you can get more for your money, people don't like them anymore." Stagnation.

I'll bet Warren Buffet feels the same way about the problem being less to do with the left and right as well, well with all the "interests" he's responsible for consolidating. I'd much rather have a million self-righteous internet trolls than the pretentiousness of a "hallelujah singing" and "weeping" Buffet household when it comes time to wipe down the the ol' grill next season, though.

[–]HarlanRogers 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why would I be jealous of their inability to grow as a person? They have no modicum of self-doubt or introspection, which you could argue in some ways is a positive for them in accomplishing goals, but throw them against an equally ignorant person on the other side of the debate, and they strain each other, driving themselves to insanity whilst more sensible people on the left and right distance themselves from these two.

Not to mention, these people through creating division in the citizenry create the Warren Buffets of the world and allow them to prosper.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe. Sounds like a familiar slope, though.