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[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Actually it is the evidence you asked for. Conservatives have a five axis value system while leftists have a two axis value system. And since justice will always lose to harm reduction, leftists effectively use a one axis value system. You're talking about people who see the world in black and white versus those who see in full color including ultraviolet and infrared.

"He who knows only his own side of the case, knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them. But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side; if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion."

-- John Stuart Mill, "On Liberty"

We all know you can post links about what poor misunderstood souls conservatives are - that what you do. That's all you do. One. Trick. Pony.

You neither addressed nor refuted anything that I said. This is a personal insult, the bottom of the Pyramid of Debate. If you have any evidence that leftists have more than two moral axes I would be happy to consider it.

[–]FreedomUltd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

This is a personal insult

jeez, I just can't stop oppressing you can I.

If you have any evidence that leftists have more than two moral axes I would be happy to consider it.

You're trying so hard to change the subject, now that you been asked for evidence that you can't produce. Of course you've accused me of changing the subject. You keep doing everything you're complaining about. Including insulting me, then claiming that demanding the evidence you mentioned is a personal insult to you.

I'll ask again... does this stuff ever work?

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Personal insults aren't arguments.

The issue that we are discussing is that leftists have a blindness when it comes to seeing conservative values. Something illustrated quite nicely by this comment chain where you do nothing but get angry and hurl insults.

I'll ask again... does this stuff ever work?

It does when you deal with people who agree on facts, reason, and Enlightenment values. Something the SJW left rejects in favor of lived experience and the very idea of objective truth, like 2+2=5.

[–]FreedomUltd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Personal insults aren't arguments.

So why do you do it?

Are you gonna provide that evidence you mentioned that conservatives don't lie like rugs or not? Pretty clearly not I guess. You're gonna keep pimping the same stories claiming to be misunderstood and oppressed and suffering insults while misunderstanding and trying to oppress and insult.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Are you gonna provide that evidence you mentioned that conservatives don't lie like rugs or not? Pretty clearly not I guess.

It's due to the lack of understanding of values, like I said. Of course you're going to say conservatives lie. "We need borders" and "we need to take care of our own people first before we help others" and "2+2=4 and it will always be thus" are conservative values that leftists simply do not understand (unless they independently re-invent them on their own on the leftist commune) so of course you're going to say they're lies.

It's been said that people don't have ideologies, ideologies have people. I feel like that right now. I'm not talking to someone who wants to learn something or gain more knowledge about the world, I'm talking to someone who just wants to recapitulate his or her ideology and is not interested in a discussion - exactly what is predicted about adherents to Critical Social Justice Theory.

Say, what's 2+2?

[–]FreedomUltd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You are demonstrating that conservatives lie, that conservatives project, that you call the kettle black. You said you had evidence that you refuse to produce... because you don't, and you didn't. You accuse me of trying to change the subject as you try everything possible to move the discussion away from that simple fact. You accuse leftists of misunderstanding conservatives while repeatedly demonstrating that you are not talking to who you assume, and insist, that you are. You insult me and claim that I am insulting you. You repeat your favorite line over and over because you think you lose less when you don't diverge from that one trick.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I presented the clear and convincing evidence that leftists are totally unaware of what conservative values are. So what are they? Do you seriously think lying is a conservative value? You're precisely who the research is talking about.

[–]FreedomUltd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're straw manning and trying to change the subject. Do I think lying is a value at all for anyone? Of course not. Smoke and mirrors.