We gave them cars...

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[–]Canbot 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Who is we? What did you do exactly?

I am not making the argument that all people are equal, which is especially untrue with respect to intelligence. What I am saying is that you should focus on becoming the best that you can be and avoid becoming arrogant and complacent based on the achievements of others.

[–]milkmender11 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Actually, both of those would be 'with' white people. Before colonial imperialism, hunger and disease were quite rare in Africa. Indigenous tribes tend gravitate towards efficient equilibriums with their environment. The entire field of human behavioral ecology is about that. Happy to engage in informed discussion about this

[–]Velocity 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm assuming you're referring to the sub Sahara. Since they didn't have writing/historical records, how do you substantiate this claim?

[–]milkmender11 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They indeed do have historical records in the form of oral tradition, as well as behaviors which are encoded into millenia worth of hunter-gatherer traditions. There is no reason to believe that forager lifestyle has changed very much, unless you wish for it to be true that hunger and disease were prominent so you can advocate for a political agenda.

Human behavioral ecologists have conducted dozens of experimental-ethnographic studies of African foragers. There is no evidence to suggest that they ever exceeded the resource capacity of their environments before colonial influence. This is readily demonstrated by studying those tribes and bands in remote regions which have been minimally impacted by colonialism, and performing simple comparative analysis between them and populations which have long and storied histories of colonization. Colonization is not an 'on/off' switch, a monolith which we cannot see past without a missionary's biased account or a scribe paid to tell a chieftan what he wants to see. There are degrees of colonization, which enables certain modes of nuanced analysis.

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    [–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Asymmetric face.