Why are we obligated to defend foreign countries? (USA)

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[–]lestratege 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I've got news for you, the Soviets defeated Germany in WW2, not the Americans. The US pursued its own interests, and rightly so. Nobody is blaming them for doing that. What bothers European is how the US PORTRAYS their involvement as "we save your asses", which is ridiculous.

I am so sick of America being blamed no matter what.

Then get the fuck out. That's exactly what Wallace wrote to Truman http://claver.gprep.org/sjochs/wallace%20letter.htm

"How do American actions since V–J Day appear to other nations? I mean by actions the concrete things like $13 billion for the War and Navy Departments, the Bikini tests of the atomic bomb and continued production of bombs, the plan to arm Latin America with our weapons, production of B–29s and planned production of B–36s, and the effort to secure air bases spread over half the globe from which the other half of the globe can be bombed. I cannot but feel that these actions must make it look to the rest of the world as if we were only paying lip service to peace at the conference table. "

See, "lip service". That's what irks people outside the US. It's not so much what the US did or do. It's how it portrays its own actions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZwuTI-V8SI

"What's worse I think" part is spot on.

So you're not obligated to do anything. That's how Americans try to make themselves feel indispensable (dixit Hillary). Noone is asking you to, you just like to pretend that you did it for others instead of yourselves (like in WW1 and WW2). Nothing wrong with that, but stop taking others for stupider than they are.

[–]polync 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Being Russian, I tend to be grateful for any lend-lease and support be it material, people, intelligence or any other means US, UK, and any other country provided during WW2. Because every tank, shell, car or whatever meant less of my people dead and that's the top priority.

Yet nowadays I would be much more happy if US would stick to North America and do not point my home country with thousands nukes, subs, and build bases all around it.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is why we need to get the fuck out. You ungrateful assholes despise us and want us gone.

Your mistake is seeing the globalist US security state and thinking it's the American people. They're the ones whose idea is continual subsidies for being allies while we get nothing in return.

[–]PencilPusher55 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Never said we saved any of you. I said that when we do come to help, for any reason whatsoever, support big or small - we are always seen in a negative light and you keep going back to "Because you think you saved our asses!". Never mentioned that. Only that all of the other countries in war time are heroes who can do no wrong but the Americans were really pulling on over one everyone with their foul agendas.