George Floyd Body cam Video Shows he was saying "I can't Breath" way before being put on the Ground.

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[–]Nwabudike_Morgan 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It really seems the guy was dying from an overdose. The police did a stupid thing, but it was a bad situation. Floyd's name and image is already being removed from murals.

Anyone remember the story of Matthew Shepard? The "official" story is that he was tortured and killed as a hate crime by two strangers. A guy wrote a book a few years ago with the story that Shepard was actually a meth dealer, and the guys who killed him were involved with the drug scene. It is a narrative that instantly makes more sense. BUT the version where Shepard's murder was a homophobic hate crime was much better marketing for the LGB movement, and it was leveraged to add "hate crime aggravation" penalties to violent crimes. Also, the killers would have had to admit to being in Shepard's circle of gay friends, which would not be good for them in prison.

[–]Edge_Finder 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It really seems the guy was dying from an overdose.

i dont think he did, but died of excited delirium

It is a narrative that instantly makes more sense. BUT the version where Shepard's murder was a homophobic hate crime was much better marketing for the LGB movement,

Never believe MSM lies

the killers would have had to admit to being in Shepard's circle of gay friends, which would not be good for them in prison.

in 98 hmmmm maybe, you just do your shit you'd be fine

[–]Nwabudike_Morgan 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"Excited delirium" is quite clearly a euphemism for "really high on drugs" but it doesn't meet any meaningful standard as a cause of death. If the cops know someone is high, in a state of "excited delirium", there are a number of things they can do. Are they deliberately ignoring signs of overdose? Or perhaps they are avoiding the overdose issue until medial professionals arrive? It is a lousy situation either way. Should their response change if there are public witnesses with cameras? No training can help with that decision.