Unpopular opinion: parts of third-wave feminism directly led to the rise of trans ideology

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[–]jet199 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

But people can also be highly confident in one area of their lives and have very low self esteem in another. We recognise that in women all the time, I'm sure men are the same.

Personally I've seen a lot of male detransitioners say that their dislike of their male sensuality was part of the reason for their gender dysphoria. They viewed castration as the key to removing all their problems and to make them a better person. They didn't want to objectify or lear over women so started objectifying themselves as women instead which then lead to AGP.

Male sensuality isn't nice and cuddly, you can see that everyday from how they describe it themselves and act. And it isn't all down to social power structures or women's weakness either, in gay male culture they are even more about objectification, promiscuity, fetish and dominance than the average straight man would want.

So what to do. Do you tell all men they are faulty and evil, but pretend you are not doing that by throwing in the odd "but it's socialisation not biology" as though that helps, or find ways that everyone can express their different sexualities in a healthy way so people don't see castration and putting on an act their whole lives as a great plan.

[–]just_lesbian_things 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You're operating under a lot of wrong assumptions about me. I will clear them up.

We recognise that in women all the time

There is no we, because I don't recognise that in women all the time. If you want to make this point, you will need to elaborate.

They didn't want to objectify or lear over women so started objectifying themselves as women instead which then lead to AGP

No, AGPs have no qualms about inserting themselves into lesbian spaces and leering at lesbians. I wish they kept it to themselves, but they very much do not. They have shut down any and all non-inclusive lesbian spaces as well as ostracizing and banning lesbians who won't play along.

Male sensuality isn't nice and cuddly, you can see that everyday from how they describe it themselves and act

I don't give a fuck about male sensuality. I generally do not give a fuck about men. Which leads to my next point

So what to do. Do you tell all men they are faulty and evil, but pretend you are not doing that by throwing in the odd "but it's socialisation not biology" as though that helps, or find ways that everyone can express their different sexualities in a healthy way so people don't see castration and putting on an act their whole lives as a great plan.

I will call out bad behavior regardless of who is doing it. I hope it is socialisation and not the innate nature of men because I like to pretend that people are inherently not bad and, despite my indifference towards them, I like to believe men are capable of redemption. I'm willing to go with your solution, if you have a better one on how to address the bad behavior, but I will not be helping men "find ways to express their sexualities". I think this is a pretty fair deal, more than generous honestly, considering how extremely predatory and disrespectful men have acted towards me regarding my sexuality. Also, it seems that you have a vested interest in making sure dudes don't cut their balls or dicks off, but please understand that not all of us share your passion. I, for one, don't give a fuck. I just don't agree that castrated/dickless men are women and I don't intend to pretend otherwise to help delusional men through their emotional issues.