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[–]Trajan 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

The real unpopular opinion, at least amongst traditional supremacist feminists, is that they themselves laid the groundwork for the current situation in which they find themselves in the pit in to which they cheerfully tossed males.

Social constructionism and post modernism. These are the ideological underpinnings of feminism since at least the second wave. The progressive stack also went along with the neo-Marxist transformation of oppressed/oppressor, previously based on class, in to genders. The problem with the progressive stack is that it's not so much fun when you find yourself significantly outranked, is it, cat ladies?

Of course there's plenty of denial. Go hit-up the gender critical subs to find these damaged people doing mental backflips so they can hold on to their faith post schism. They will not acknowledge feminism's ideological underpinnings and lineage, they will deny feminism's complicity in the creation of a clown world in which a man can claim to be a woman or sausage. They prefer to blame it all on a patriarchal conspiracy – as if conservatives or right-wingers would be overjoyed to see mentally troubled men getting their dicks out around young girls. As if the right figures prominently in the development of the left-wing philosophies and ideologies that drive this movement. Feminists have made their bed, and they're bigots if they won't share it with the lady penis of a man named Miranda. Good job!

[–]DustinM 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You're literally making shit up.

2nd wave is firmly rooted in the material. It's why radical feminism has been at the forefront in opposition to gender ideology going back to at least the 1970s (see The Transsexual Empire by Janice Raymond, available free here: https://janiceraymond.com/the-transsexual-empire/ )

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You are all wrong. Read Bax to see how far back this goes. All forms of feminism have been cancer. Women have not been oppressed, the tendencies of authority vs. responsibilities has always been different. It's always been a selective framing. Feminism has always been cancer.

https://archive.org/details/fraudoffeminism00baxerich

https://ernestbelfortbax.com/category/the-legal-subjugation-of-men/

[–]Trajan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure, some have. Others have not. Either way, this emerged from feminism. Even darlings of old-school feminism, like Dworkin, showed support for the idea that gender can be acquired (i.e. a man becoming a woman). Some disagreed (e.g. Greer).

Are you telling me that feminists have not on the whole argued that gender differences are predominantly socially determined? If they have not, then why has overthrowing the social order been top of the list for radical feminists?

I'm not going to read an entire book. Feel free to cite specific claims from the book and I'd be happy to take a look.