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[–]Ladis_Wascheharuum 15 insightful - 7 fun15 insightful - 6 fun16 insightful - 7 fun -  (12 children)

The Gateway Pundit is trash. (Just read this article about George Floyd to see how badly they can twist facts into absurd conclusions. George Floyd was murdered by police. That's objective fact clearly proven by video.)

Here's a less sensationalized version of the story in the OP: https://fox59.com/news/crimetracker/indy-mother-becomes-2nd-homicide-along-downtown-canal-in-1-week/

There was no "mob", just two groups of assholes who encountered each other and went as far as flashing guns. It started over "a slang version of the N-word" (nigga?). There's no transcript of what was said but based on the known circumstances, there were no heroes here.

Obviously this murder should still be punished - an ambush with a gun is damn cowardly, too - but OP's headline is very misleading. This happened at 3am between two armed groups that got into an argument over race.

[–][deleted] 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

he was on meth and resisted arrest

[–]Ladis_Wascheharuum 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (10 children)

Floyd?

Saying you can't breathe and then dying is "resisting" now?

Also I read the "bodycam transcript" and within the first few lines I see police needlessly escalating while Floyd is apologizing. Maybe he's not fully following instructions because he's confused... maybe. Shouting and swearing isn't going to help that situation. The police approach of using force and abuse at the slightest bit of perceived noncompliance is totally fucked.

People don't deserve to be shot or choked just because they can't play police's fucked-up "Simon says" games well or quick enough.

And even if Floyd was methed up and violent (which he wasn't) it still wouldn't justify kneeling on him for 8 minutes, which would still be murder. George Floyd was murdered. If you can't agree with that simple objectively true statement then I don't even know how to talk to you.

[–]dong_master 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The defense is going to claim that his death was not related to kneeling on his back/neck. If you read the body cam transcripts he was complaining of not being able to breathe as soon as he was handcuffed, before he was initially placed in the patrol car. It seems like he was having some sort of medical emergency exacerbated by the stress of being arrested. The first autopsy corroborates this narrative, although the autopsy ordered by the family somewhat disputes it. They're going to claim that the knee on back hold has been commonly used for decades without major incident (demonstrably true) and his death was a result of a combination of drug intoxication, existing heart condition, stress, and probably lingering symptoms of COVID which he is confirmed to have had.

Unless the defense colossally fucks up OR the jurors conspire to agree on a verdict due to societal pressure no one is going to jail for his death.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

although the autopsy ordered by the family somewhat disputes it.

Its made up. If you think otherwise, can you provide a link so I can read the autopsy?

[–]dong_master 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Which part are you saying is made up? The autopsy performed at the behest of the family was certainly performed. Whether or not we agree with it's conclusions is another matter haha I'm not sure if their autopsy will be admissible in the criminal trial or if it's only valid in the inevitable civil suit.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The autopsy performed at the behest of the family was certainly performed.

Mind linking to the autopsy then? I think the media is just lying.

[–]dong_master 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

As far as I'm aware the family didn't release the complete PDF but no one, including the defense, are disputing that it was performed. https://apnews.com/d41cdf6cefbb3e5603a28e6dc07f9589

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Ok. I don't believe it.

[–]dong_master 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Don't believe what? It's laughable to think that the autopsy didn't take place. If you don't believe the conclusions then that is entirely reasonable but to believe it didn't take place at all is just being a fucking retard.