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[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

Not sure, care to provide some sources. The BDS movement is filled with good people and bad. But boycotting a country has been a constitutional right until Trump screwed it all up.

[–]AsInBeer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

The BDS movement is evil in my view. I will provide the sources that it's gheaded by liberal Jews presently. I also have links deomstrating how much liberal Jews are disliked by conservative Jews. It's essentially the ame thing as liberal and conservative Americans.

Any that's a small point. My large points are in my post.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

BDS is constitutional. We have the right to choose products and organize to boycott products from regions and countries which are corporations such as Israel LLC. Lol.

It might be headed by liberal Jews but so isn't the "Jewish Alliance for Peace with Palestine" which purports to be non-partial but yet Alison Weir has proven that they are Zionists nevertheless and when truth really matters the most they will always side with Israel.

I don't care if Jews are heading something, if they are functioning and doing the constitutionally right things (that means not controlling the opposition or being subversives) then what is to complain about?

We know people by their fruits

[–]AsInBeer 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (28 children)

Well thew question is not is BDS against Israel? The question is- are all Jews the same or is there a left-right split amongst jews just like there is in any segment of the population, with the left and the right taking their ussual sides. The answer is yes and the consequence is there are lots of Jews who have it in for Israel, just like the rest of the Left.

I am a non-Jew Israel supporter. I am acutely aware of just how toxic liberal Jews are to the cause I support.

Upshot- not all Jews think alike. They're not a monolith. So don't treat them like they are.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Of course Jews are not a monolith but that doesn't negate the fact that Judaism teaches even the most liberal of Jews to treat non-Jews, gentiles, Amaleks with little respect—with disdain or disregard. That doesn't allege that all erhnic Jews (Jews are not a race) think this way but their traditions, even the reform sects are quite supremacist and/or marked by nepotism.

We can observe this with the integrationalists of the Hasidic Chabad-Lubavitch sects, Fundementalist Jews and communist Jews.

The humanist Jews like Iseael Shakah and Said among others are not of this ideology and speak out against rhe atrocities of Israel.

The left-winf progressive Jews, not all, can be hypocritical but the revisionist Likudnik right-winf Jews that control Israel are terrorists.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

No, the question is I support BDS because it is constitutional. You call it evil. You support Israel, a government that orchestrated 9/11.

[–]AsInBeer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

I entertained the idea that 9-11 was somehow not what the official stroy claimed but when I looked into the supposed proof, I could find none stood up to analysis OR the analysis required was beyond my ability.

For that reason, I don't believe Israel of the US govt. did 9-11 .

AS far as Isarel goes, yeah, owing to hte very very very long history of jews being singled out and persecuted , WWII being only the latest example, I do support Isareal's right ot exist and to exist as a specifically Jewish nation.

I would think the same for anyone wioth their history.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Search the Dr. Husely study on WTC7 or google Arcitechs and engineers for 9/11 Truth or watch the documentary (5hrs long) September 11th: New Pearl Habor.

9/11 was an obvious false flag attrocity event and explosives were found in thr dust samples of the towers. Most intelligence agencies including German and Italian intelligence have publically stated that Mossad and a 5th column within the US government orcheatrated 9/11.

Israel, specifically Zionism is a fraudulent welfare state founded on revisionist Zionism. It was colonized by Jews well before WW2. They decimated the Palestinian people who have genetic lineage to their ancestors before Yeshua.

Jews can live anywhere they want in the west, including the US. Israel is a fraudulent ethnocracy where you can be jailed as a Christian for trying to bring the teachings of Yeshua to a Jew.

Anyone who supports the current Likudnik state of Israel. The founders of modern political terrorism, as Begin admits, is anti-Christ.

[–]AsInBeer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Most intelligence agencies including German and Italian intelligence have publically stated that Mossad and a 5th column within the US government orcheatrated 9/11.

Links to these statements?

Jews can live anywhere they want in the west, including the US.

The US , to our everlasting shame, turned away Jews fleeing Germany in WWII. Ditto other nations. This can happen again at any time as Jeremy Corbin and AOC demonstrated. For this reason, and the past 2000 years of pogroms all over the world, the Jews need their own homeland and they have a right to defend it as a aspecifically Jewish homeland.

is Anti-Christ

OK OK so you hate us (people who support Jews and Israel I mean) . I get it already. But my reasons still stand in my view. Long standing historical animosity and attempts at actual extinction last century earned them a special dispensation from the world to have their own ethnostate.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Search Cossigna's statements on 9/11.

This can happen again at any time as Jeremy Corbin and AOC demonstrated.

Are you that brainwashed to believe these people want to kill Jews? Come on now. It is when Jews call out the criminality of CERTAIN JEWS that Jews will not be used as a scapegoat anymore either by their own kind who happen to be criminals or of a king or state.

It's that simple. And greatly, I see this happening today, though, Few Jews want to mention neocons or Israel's Mossad had anything to do with 9/11, which they did, including the Anthrax Attacks as contended by Greame McQueen who you should also look up and read some of his books or watch his great presentations.

[–]AsInBeer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

What I think is people who are more dedicated to the task of creating plausible narratives then I am to countering them. It's a kind of instinct to reject these narratives early. But then again, I've been sucked in by lots of false narratives about politics in the US and green energy and global warming and the university and whom to trust.

It's quite overwhleming and I for one freely and openly admit that I may be wrong about any number of things except when those things are really insane, like identity politics or David Icke (sp?) or what have you.
\ ON the other hand I can see clearly that the Marxists anf Leftists in this country want us dead at any price. Specific events are a matter of facts, for which experience is only a helpful clue . The ability to divine people's intentions however does yield to experience and I get what they have in store for us.

I will search for those statements.

You acknowledge that a lot of people hate the Jews out of the box and think they're all a part of a grand conspiracy to Ruin Everything, right?

AOC kill Jews? No that's Rashida Talib and the other squad members. AOC wants to kill White people.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I agree, here, that the US did turn away Jews but so too did not many prominent Zionists who advocated for pogroms or the use of transfer camps to send Jews to Palestine, blocking all other means of transfer to other lands as the Germans contended would be better places. 125,000 Jews still fought for the Reich, mind you, which is quite a staggering number. For it was always political Zionists goal to create a Jewish state in Israel whether by force or through other means. Hitler initially worked with Zionists to transfer Jews to Palestine via the Haavara Agreement. It was only when WW2 was initiated when things started to head south for all people, including Jews, who were, yes, treated as subjevts and not citizens after 1938. And I don't condone any of this, many Germans were extremely anti-Judaic well before Hitler due to the criminality of many Jewish and non-Jewish bankers alike. Hitler unfortunately, used this view to his favor.

I invite you to read the book '1939: The War that had many Fathers' to understand that the things that happened to Germany in the past by the west, by Bolshevism, by treaties, etc., led substantially to the war and pogroms. All countries were the fathers of this war, not just Germany. That includes the many criminals bankers, some of them Jews, who gutted Germany during the depression.

There is a propensity for the human condition to blame an entire people group for the criminality of a few within its ranks.

[–]AsInBeer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am aware of much of what you say. Anti-semitism was all over America and in the Roosevelt administration too.

I am happy to let the Jews have Israel as an explicitly Jewish nation. On both sides of my family, my ancestors were run out of their countries and had to flee for their lives leaving everything behind. I am not laying a claim against those nations because my ancestors were wrogned. If that happens to you, you have to suck it up and make a life elsewhere.

Why do you think Israel shoudl not exist? I truly don't understand this. I guess I am a Zionist if Zionist means Israel should exist as a Jewsih ethnostate.

History is interesting to read but less fun to live through.

[–]AsInBeer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Search the Dr. Husely study on WTC7 or google Arcitechs and engineers for 9/11 Truth or watch the documentary (5hrs long) September 11th: New Pearl Habor.

I think I did see this. I dont' know why buiilding 7 fell. But I am not a civil engineer. I am open to further evidence but that's what I need.

I saw The Looming Tower. It is evident from the information in that that the one guy watching the 9-11 hijackers in the CIA could have been conducting a LIHOP mission and doing so with full knowledge and cooperation of the CIA higher ups . You can't exclude that as a possibility.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I'll send you some more links soon.

It "collapsed" due to explosive mechanisms, which is quite clear based on all the laws of physics broken if it had been a natural collapse. Most architects who are not tied to government and the Likud, including many demolition experts, one of whom had died in a car accident many years ago, have publically stated that the towers were and could have only been demolished to account for near free-fall collapse into the greatest path of resistance. Now had it been a natural gravitational collapse, we would not observe the dustification of bones and teeth, steel girders being projectiled laterally and even at times vertically upward at a near 100 mph falling blocks from the towers facade; discovering high-tech militry grade residues in the towers dust, molten steel being found near the towers core beams, clear and evident cutter charge splits on many of the base of the core beams, hundreds of witnesses seeing, hearing or being injured by explosives before, during and well after the "planes" hit the facade of the towers in all regions of the building, including, the basement B4 levels. Many firemen and families who lost loved ones on 9/11 know that the government lied to them and was either complicit or orchestrated the attack as a pretext for thr Global War on Terror.

Please, I invite you to watch just a few documentaries and possibly read a few papers publshed by Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

Search: September 11th New Pearl Harbor by Massimo Mazzuco, which has been censored many times on YouTube but appears to be back up on smaller channels. It is around 5hrs long.

The entire WTC complex was privatized; owned and controlled including the port authority by Zionists aligned with the Likud. Don't forget that last part.

Jews like Said and Shahak among thousands of others who expose the terrorism of the Likud which was formerly the Irgun which stemmed from Jewish supremacist groups that killed and terrorized the Palestinians just like they tried to do on 9/11 by blaming the attacks on Palestinians, by fraudulently showing them celebrating the collapse of the towers when this footage was simply historical archive footage as well as reporters giving them flags to celebrate so that they could get free chocolate cakes, are on the moral sode of history. Your quick fallacious condemnation that I hate Jews is wrongly festered. I believe Jees are anti-Christ but they can still follow Christ. Enemies should be loved but also exposed, that doesn't mean I hate all Jews, or any particular group of people.

Now imagine all of this! Imagine you use fraudulent footage to sell to the world your utter hatred and want to kill.

Howard Stern, Jewish, said to all his listeners that the US with Israel should nuke the place, kill everyone there. All based on a lie!

I love Jews, humanist Jews that understand that Israel does not have a right to exist for Zionism is one of terrorism. It always was and will always be. That doesn't mean Jews shouldn't exist in Palestine or Judah or whereever. For Jews lived among the arab and Christian populations for thousands of years. It was only when Zionists seeked to buy up and colonize the land... before WW2, before camps... that the Palestinians, who have just as much right to exist in that land as their genetic studies prove, fought back.

It should be a one state with Palestinians and Jews and Christians united under a democracy; not a faux democracy ethnocracy. Jews are free to live in the west too! And all aid to Israel and foreign countries i cludong Qatar should be stopped. Israel has tecieved trillions from thr US treasury and this has to be stopped immediately.

Zionism in the end will destroy Jews as Israel Shahak and Shlomo Sand contend, they understand this, and I nor they, want this to happen.

Frum, Wolfowitz, Feith, Kristol, Barak, Sumner, Eisenberg, Lauder, Lowy, Levine, Kagan, these are the warmongering Jews that have used you as a scapegoat.

As a Jew... call them out for their criminality.

Maybe you don't know these people.

Then search this... newsfocus.org and scroll down to thr article that exposes PNAC. Interestingly, you'll see that it never says Jew one time in the long article exposing the perps behind 9/11. Yes, many of them are Jews... but I'm not blaming you, only that your perpetuate it by them using you as a scapegoat. They should renounce their Jewishness and be tried for warcrimes and murder, same with the Likud leadership and US government warhawks.

Ask some questions:

Can a 767 travel at exactly the Vd/vmo of its speed? These hijackers couldn't even fly single cessna engines. Most professional pilots will tell you the maneuvers of Flight 77 were impossible without drone technology. And we know that the teo planes that hit the towers flew over Stewart Airport which was the first privitised airport in the US put into legislation by Laudwr and other hardline Likud aligned Zionists. Then read Operation Northwoods.

I'll send more info soon.

[–]AsInBeer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

OK you gave me a big post that I can't do justice to right now but I promise your effort isn't wasted and I will peruse this information tomorrow.

Thank you!

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Here is Paul Wolfowitz, a Zionist Jew, cryptically telling the war college what will transpire:

https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=iur8iX1sFfI

People like Libby and Wolfowitz must be tried for genocide of the people of the middle-east but instead they are the front-men for your ethics departments at Yale and other universities. If Jews could expose these Jews, fully, then Jews probably would not have been scapegoated as much.

But we can of course say they same thing about the non-Jew who is ignorant of all crimes and conspiracies committed by their own as well.

[–]AsInBeer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think BDS has pretty well taken over or is in the process of taking over most universities. I will watch the link.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And that's fine... but you're wronf. Zionists aligned with Israel, as exposed by the documentary called 'The Lobby' have illustrated that BDS does not have as much grip as congress likes to contend. But they have a constitutional right to do such a thing which Zionists are trying to prevent.