Yes, Bernie Sanders Was Really Asked to Leave a Hippie Commune in 1971 Because He Refused to Do Any Work

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[–]Nemacolin 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

You are falling for the No True Scotsman fallacy. By your reasoning, if it works it cannot be "true" socialism. If it does not work, it is "true" socialism.

[–]Chipit 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Here's what happened a in real-live socialist system. Composed of true believers. They didn't just speak socialism, they lived it and breathed it. They didn't use any money, there weren't any cops. It's a great read, please have a look. https://pastebin.com/F0WGGewg

[–]RatherSmallPotato 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

"Daniel: The peasants of Guatemala who we were trying to help would say they had vegetables all the time. They'd come to the Farm and they'd decide they had it better down there."

Jesus Christ.

[–]Tiwaking 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

It's really hard to just say what the Farm was in a few sentences. It was a real experiment in living, a whole new thing. In some ways, of course, it had been done before - there were the Amish and other religious groups - but this was a modern- day bunch of people who were ex-college students. There were professionals and nonprofessionals and everybody mixed in together; and the reason they were there was that they all took psychedelic drugs. If that hadn't happened, the Farm wouldn't have been there.

Conservative Amish > Socialist Hippies

[–]RatherSmallPotato 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It's not always a fallacy. See: 0 truly dead people are alive.

[–]Censored_Scrotum 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

See: 0 truly dead people are alive.

This is not a fallacy, because is it not a generalization...

The previous argument was a fallacy.

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Star Trek Socialism is possible because of a 3D printer that can create almost anything.

That single device renders capitalism mute.

Until such a device is created in the real world: Communism and "True" socialism will not be compatible with current economic values.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The word you're looking for is "scarcity". Star Trek is a post-scarcity world. They have free energy, and a device that can create any object out of no raw materials. Well yeah I can see socialism working in such a magical world.

In our world, where things are scarce, that shit don't fly.

[–]AnarchySpeach 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"We have all this fancy technology that we should never have to work again. We should just get everything for free."

"Okay, but where will you get this free stuff?"

"From the working people, who will give it all to us for free!"

"Hold on. If none of you are working, then where do these working people magically come from?"

"From people like you who question the magic of communism, duh!"

And that is when I grabbed my rifle and barricaded my door against the waves of stupid people until they starved to death.