Yes, Bernie Sanders Was Really Asked to Leave a Hippie Commune in 1971 Because He Refused to Do Any Work

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[–]Tiwaking 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The Myrtle Hill commune lasted into the 1980s, but some of its idealism had worn off by the end. Deloz describes how the residents unwittingly drifted into patterns of life that they had hoped to reject, with traditional gender roles and monogamous relationships—"Free Love turned off like a faucet."

When Hippies meet Reality

[–]Chipit 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (11 children)

Because under true socialism, people won't work. They'll live off others until the whole thing comes crashing down. That's why socialism doesn't work.

[–]Nemacolin 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

You are falling for the No True Scotsman fallacy. By your reasoning, if it works it cannot be "true" socialism. If it does not work, it is "true" socialism.

[–]Chipit 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Here's what happened a in real-live socialist system. Composed of true believers. They didn't just speak socialism, they lived it and breathed it. They didn't use any money, there weren't any cops. It's a great read, please have a look. https://pastebin.com/F0WGGewg

[–]RatherSmallPotato 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

"Daniel: The peasants of Guatemala who we were trying to help would say they had vegetables all the time. They'd come to the Farm and they'd decide they had it better down there."

Jesus Christ.

[–]Tiwaking 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

It's really hard to just say what the Farm was in a few sentences. It was a real experiment in living, a whole new thing. In some ways, of course, it had been done before - there were the Amish and other religious groups - but this was a modern- day bunch of people who were ex-college students. There were professionals and nonprofessionals and everybody mixed in together; and the reason they were there was that they all took psychedelic drugs. If that hadn't happened, the Farm wouldn't have been there.

Conservative Amish > Socialist Hippies

[–]RatherSmallPotato 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It's not always a fallacy. See: 0 truly dead people are alive.

[–]Censored_Scrotum 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

See: 0 truly dead people are alive.

This is not a fallacy, because is it not a generalization...

The previous argument was a fallacy.

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Star Trek Socialism is possible because of a 3D printer that can create almost anything.

That single device renders capitalism mute.

Until such a device is created in the real world: Communism and "True" socialism will not be compatible with current economic values.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The word you're looking for is "scarcity". Star Trek is a post-scarcity world. They have free energy, and a device that can create any object out of no raw materials. Well yeah I can see socialism working in such a magical world.

In our world, where things are scarce, that shit don't fly.

[–]AnarchySpeach 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"We have all this fancy technology that we should never have to work again. We should just get everything for free."

"Okay, but where will you get this free stuff?"

"From the working people, who will give it all to us for free!"

"Hold on. If none of you are working, then where do these working people magically come from?"

"From people like you who question the magic of communism, duh!"

And that is when I grabbed my rifle and barricaded my door against the waves of stupid people until they starved to death.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's untrue but you are also misguided in that you are confusing socialism with marxism.

[–]useless_aether 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

sanders is a 4d hippie, outcommied the commies. :-)

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Too lazy for hippies, well nobody can question his authenticity.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

He's a jew, what do you expect?

[–]DffrntDrmmr 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Makes sense that he then chose to mooch off of taxpayers.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

He was too busy figuring out how to be a sell out coward when it counted most.

It's a comment on Bernie, not on socialism.

[–]GoNzO 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

He is a communist POS who has never worked in his life.

[–]Bus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Mmmm free bacon.

[–]Baked_Tofu 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The lying hypocrite once had anti-war protesters arrested too. He's not the next savior.

Bernie the Bomber’s Bad Week

In late April I was among the 25 Vermonters who occupied Congressman Bernie Sanders’ Burlington office to protest his support of the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia and the ongoing war against Iraq. Calling ourselves the “Instant Antiwar Action Group,” we decided to bring our outrage at Bernie’s escalating hypocrisy directly to his office, an action that resulted in 15 of us being arrested for trespass...
https://www.libertyunionparty.org/?page_id=363

IRL Bernie is a Shepherd. His job is to keep the DemoRat flock intact. Those who might think of straying off the reservation can hope Bernie the Bomber will right the ship, but then Bernie endorses the evil witch Hillary- proving he's not what he says he is. F Sanders, all to hell. He's a FRAUD.

[–]Tiwaking 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bernie is a Shepherd

Bernie is the garbage bag that holds all the trash.

The real heavy lifting is done by everyone else.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well I'm not sure how true that is since one of the MANY MANY reasons people blame anything but the true reasons for Trump is that Sanders' voters stayed home and didn't vote, due to Clinton rigging the Democrat nomination. Some shepherd. He didn't keep the flock intact.

[–]Spud 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Why did he refuse to do work?

Anyone know?

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

He didn't, epic title gore here. We was just visiting and distracting others from their work by talking politics. However he did overstay his welcome...

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Who fed him? Who housed him? Who paid for the electricity?

He was a moocher. All socialist societies have huge problems with freeloaders. It's one of the many reasons socialism doesn't work. See: https://pastebin.com/F0WGGewg

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Who fed him? Who housed him? Who paid for the electricity?

The commune did, as they no doubt did for all visitors. He only became a moocher when he tried to stay for more than 3 nights, violating their rules.

Cool link, I'll check it out.

[–]Tarrock[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

He's a lazy communist.

[–]Spud 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's a what or who. It's not a why. He had reasons. What were they?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And you have a lazy brain.