the problem with illegal immigration

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[–]HeyImSancho 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Without that external pressure they'd flourish at home, not seek a life elsewhere.

"flourishing" is in the eyes of the beholder, and what you may see as a quick fix with puppy dogs, and ice cream usually takes a little more.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

"Takes a little more"? Like the way the CIA infiltrates and disrupts countless foreign elections and political systems.

Bolivia was doing better before they recently flipped everything there. So too with Venezuela. Honduras, basically everything south of Mexico, heck Mexico too. And that's just on this side of the world.

I don't know what you mean by puppy dogs and ice cream as I'm into neither.

[–]HeyImSancho 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"Takes a little more"? Like the way the CIA infiltrates and disrupts countless foreign elections and political systems.

Bolivia was doing better before they recently flipped everything there. So too with Venezuela. Honduras, basically everything south of Mexico, heck Mexico too. And that's just on this side of the world.

I don't know what you mean by puppy dogs and ice cream as I'm into neither.

And you feel illegal immigration is justified exactly how when the corporations that were, and are behind that, don't like the American populace?

As far as the puppy dogs, and ice cream comment, have you lived in any of the communities you listed off? I've lived in a number of those countries south of the border, as well as worked construction in Texas with many of those same cultures present. There's a lot of infighting, and a LOT of cultural clashes with what's normal, and not normal.

So to be clear, I read, or interpret what you're saying as, 'since the multinational corporations in charge of the US Govt. are causing mischief in other countries, the American populace who's also the target of those same tyrants, must accept the consequences of said multinational corporations that don't like them as well???'

Is that close to what you're saying, or not, and if not then can you clearly explain what you think the future should for Americans?

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ah, you assume.

"you feel illegal immigration is justified"

I never said that at all. It doesn't have to be for or against.

If you are for decriminalizing drugs it doesn't mean you are an addict. It doesn't mean you do those drugs. It doesn't mean you want to legalize them all.

I'm not supporting the "illegals" nor am I supporting them. Above all, I am not against them or making them suffer worse than they already have it. I'm also for diffusing the weaponized division.

I have lived in Austin, Oakland, etc where there were "those guys" who live under the bridges, etc that stand around on the corner by the Home Depot waiting for day labour. That's hardly a life worth aspiring to, nor worth picking on.

Fighting those easy targets doesn't solve any of the problems they might bring.

I'm sorry I don't have a better answer/solution for you. If I did I might have whipped that out sooner. All I know is punching down is the way Empire trickles down. Compassion is the opposite.

#FightElitesNotEachOther

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've seen plenty of leftists, rightists, and centrists talk of love, and compassion, and all that beautiful jazz; yet ask them to define either of those, and it only goes to the depths of 'as seen on tv' in regards to what those words actually encompass. Consistently I've seen the definition of love, as 'people being happy', and the definition of compassion almost exclusively uses arguments similar to yours to justify; "oh just look at them, I feel sad for them, because they live differently than I do, and I cannot imagine living that way so they must be oppressed, lord have mercy on them!!!" I wonder how you define them? I will say, that seeing how you feel pity for people in regards to how they choose to live, or work isn't love, or compassion; it falls somewhat on the 'as seen on tv'. Why?

Well let me do some assuming! You equate those living under bridges as illegals and looking for work at Home Depot? Interesting to say the least, I've never ran into many homeless illegals living under bridges. Usually they as a small group at the least will rent a room...somewhere. Who do live under bridges historically, and most times I see anymore are homeless Americans. Whether due to drug addiction, mental illness, or whatever, they still chose that lifestyle( in my rating system we should help those at home before strangers; lets start with the homeless ). I think it's telling though to mix homeless in with illegals; why not throw in a transgender, or 'save the illegal drag queens living under the bridges, they've got rights too!'.

I mean, I see how you finished your last post, '#fightelitesnoteachother', but your fight the elites is exactly what the authoritarian state wants. Let me fix your hastag to what it really means #bend-over-and-take-it.

You do realize they fix elections all the time in Mexico simply by giving the poor trinkets, and you want to bring more of that to America?

[–]DffrntDrmmr 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't know what you mean by puppy dogs and ice cream as I'm into neither.

Or baseball, hotdogs and apple pie, either, it appears. :)

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You mean moose, maple syrup, and beavers, eh?