All of us pay the national debt. Except the ones who get it tax free like the tax cuts to the oligarch. The debt is all money we print. Once it goes up to the top they hord it. We keep paying. Unrigging the system. That takes balls only one is doing that he should be president of the United States of America. Unrigging is hard work. Bernie has got us I like that. I find it stunning in simplicity America needs that money back. As interest rises we are so fucked. Thanks Trump and his minions.