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[–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm not talking about a theoretical situation. My father went from being an extremely healthy 70 something year old to needing meds and he's now unable to put any strain on his heart from a covid infection. His ventricle is damaged.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/23011-covid-heart-damage

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

And how sure are you that he didn't get the jab?

[–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I know he got the jab, but the damage didn't happen until the infection. It'd be one hell of a coincidence if heart damage didn't show up from a shot almost two years prior until he got the infection.

The spike protein is the problem, I don't see why it would matter where it comes from when it's the body's own immune response that's the mechanism behind the damage. We can see the antibodies in the blood even if the infection itself is localized in the respiratory system.

The jab might be worse since it's pumping out spike protein for up to 9 months, but it also might be better since the piss poor storage and manufacturing of the shots may very well have deactivated most of them.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You are in some deep denial. There is absolutely nothing unusual about getting heart damage and not knowing until experiencing a stressor that causes a heart attack.

I don't see why it would matter where it comes from

How can you say that after I explained why it matters? You are trying really hard to hold on to a belief. It's like one part of your brain had completely blocked information from another part of your brain.

it's the body's own immune response that's the mechanism behind the damage.

First off that is not entirely true. In the case of blood clots the pathology is believed to be caused by the blood vessel walls getting infected by the vaccine. When those cells produce the spike protien and start releasing them some of those protiens get stuck on the cell wall causing them to become unnaturally rough, which then stimulates blood clotting.

Secondly the immune response to the vaccine is very different than a natural infection. The former is full of adjuvants that throw your immune system into overdrive. That overstimulation is what causes autoimmune diseases to develop because it can cause your body to start attacking itself.

There is absolutely no reason for a respiratory virus to cause any immune system damage to your heart. The virus does not infect the heart.

The vaccine can infect the heart. It may not be likely, but it is possible.

No other respiratory virus has ever caused heart problems. The corona virus is not new and has been infecting humans for a long time. This particular one is just engineered to be more infectious.

[–]dinker 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sometimes they die quick sometimes it takes a minute.

https://rumble.com/v21zezm-the-died-suddenly-documentary.html