The UN stated more Palestinian children were killed in Gaza in 4 months than in 4 years of worldwide wars combined

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[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The civilian per combattant ratio is in a way the only thing that really matters. If Israel is very fast at killing people that shouldn't change things in principle. The only reason such articles are posted is because certain countries want to keep the US busy and one way to do that is to stir up the Middle East and one way to do that is to kill 1000 Jews.

If the people in Gaza are so important, why don't any of the Arab countries just import all of them? The Jews could then just give a "Fuck off" premium to the refugees such that they would be rich and the problem would be resolved; it's not like there are any other Jew countries, but there are a lot of Arab countries.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If the people in Gaza are so important, why don't any of the Arab countries just import all of them?

That's Israel's goal, I think.

The other Arab countries don't, in general, support yielding the land to Israel.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The other Arab countries don't, in general, support yielding the land to Israel.

Is there any particular reason for that? The Palestinians are butthurt they lost militarily a couple of times, but that's an emotional thing. How big of a deal would it really be? Let's say Israel were to to give every Palestinian a billion dollars to get the fuck out. I'd imagine that deal would be taken by all of them. So, clearly there is a number and I think the actual number would likely be a lot lower.

Do the Arab countries just not want poor people coming to them? Do the Arabs see the Palestinians as inferior? If so, why the fuck are they waving their flags everywhere? I think we should have laws to export everyone waving the flag of a different country for national security reasons and we should consider it treason. Imagine living in Ukraine and seeing that your street has Russian flags.

If the ground with some specific building is so holy (whatever that means), Israel could just ship the physical ground somewhere that the Arab world wants.

I don't think the Arabs actually want anything, I think they just want to exterminate all the Jews and that's all there is to it. Not so odd when seen from a evolutionary biology perspective. I have no doubt the Japanese also would like to exterminate everyone else, but they just had to be explained 80 years ago that they couldn't.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Do the Arab countries just not want poor people coming to them?

Does Israel? That's where they lived.

Israel has made them an underclass. It's not up to any other country to clean up the mess they created with their apartheid.

I think we should have laws to export everyone waving the flag of a different country for national security reasons and we should consider it treason.

Do you really?

If the ground with some specific building is so holy

I don't think it's about the holiness of the ground. It's that's that's their house and home and someone stole it.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Do you really?

Yes, because one random person with a flag isn't a threat, but when your whole street does, it is a very real threat. I think we should throw out people that do not want to defend the land, if needed, but presumably would help an invading force. For example, In East-Germany lots of people long to Russia. Just imagine enlisting to the German army and you get to be toe to toe with a bunch of Putin lovers in a war against the Russians. It's a strategic mistake to tolerate such people.

I don't think it's about the holiness of the ground. It's that's that's their house and home and someone stole it.

If it's just about money, the world could easily buy out all the Palestinians. That's a lot cheaper than hearing about X number of deaths for the next 50 years. I have no idea what the Palestinians really want. The idea of the Internet was supposed to be that you could talk to someone on the other side of the planet for greater understanding, etc. Now, where can I find what an average Palestinian wants so much? I think they would kill for the right to live in the US, for example.