Trans-Identified Male Arrested After Threatening To Murder Children In Illinois Over Transphobic "Bullying"

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[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Nobody needs hormones or sex change surgery (edit so you can't act like a retard and pretend not to know the context here) so any threat of self-harm based on not getting them is just narcissistic manipulation.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You don't think anyone needs surgery?

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Is that a real question? No, no child needs cosmetic surgery to falsely resemble the other sex to fulfill a fetish in exchange for total loss of sexual function and lifelong chronic pain and medical appointments for no fucking reason. Are you stupid?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Is that a real question?

Yes

No, no child needs cosmetic surgery to falsely resemble the other sex to fulfill a fetish in exchange for total loss of sexual function and lifelong chronic pain and medical appointments for no fucking reason.

That's not the question. The question was "You don't think anyone needs surgery?"

Are you stupid?

I'm starting to suspect at least one of us is.

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Oh, I see, you're arguing the syntax of my words because I used "surgery" as a short hand for SRS, which was obviously what we were talking about, but you're acting like you are too stupid to grasp that. Semantic arguments, to prolong having to say anything substantial. Here, let me save you time by editing my original comment. Now continue defending child abuse.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Oh, I see, you're arguing the syntax of my words because I used "surgery" as a short hand for SRS

Not exactly. BobOki was talking about the age at which you need to consenting to surgery compared to the age for consenting to sex.

I suspect that in the general case of surgery, that doesn't make any sense.

He was talking about some surgery that trans people get. Probably the removal or augmentation of breast tissue, as that's the one that more trans people get. But he only said "life-altering", so I took the opportunity to start the discussion about consenting to surgery in general.

And then, because the regret for this kind of surgery is so much lower than for other types of surgery, we could discuss why he thinks that the difference should be in the objectively wrong direction.

But you appear to be fixated on your sexual fetishes, and unable to discuss consent with respect to surgery in general. Which is fine of itself, but you shouldn't project your fascination with child abuse on to me. That's your problem to deal with.

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You took the opportunity to stupidly assert that trans surgeries for underage children are "life-saving", which they aren't. And now you're beating around that fact, trying to pretend you argued something less indefensible. At no point was the discussion about surgery "in general", so you're just bullshitting now.

Also, as far as regretted surgeries go, not only are these often regretted (suicide rates remain the same post-op), they are probably the most visible in terms of people posting "I regret this, I'm in so much pain, why did I do this to myself" online. So not sure how you got that conclusion.

Children shouldn't be able to consent to any cosmetic surgery, period, which is what all trans surgery is. If you think otherwise you are defending child abuse.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You took the opportunity to stupidly assert that trans surgeries for underage children are "life-saving", which they aren't.

Can you link me to the comment to which you're referring?

Because i think you're constructing a straw man here, or are unable to think about anything that's not directly about transsexuals.

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Here, here, and here.

You responded to multiple comments discussing trans surgery for kids as "life-saving" by then obtusely pretending (after first insinuating that was what you were talking about) that you in fact meant surgery in general. Even when the people talking to you repeatedly explained they were only discussing trans surgery, you kept playing dumb.

Really lazy honestly, but I think even you know there's no way to defend any of this without trolling or strawmanning. Get blocked. I hope anyone else who sees these comments knows to never engage with you.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Here, here, and here.

So if I find a paper that looks at one treatment and that finds an improvement from the treatment, will you admit that you're mistaken?

Not about trans surgery. Nor even surgery. Just medical treatments.

Does life saving count as life-altering?

Asking whether all surgery that is life saving is included, not just gender affirmation.

Does life saving count as life-altering?

Repeating the question.

Looks like you've misunderstood my comments in your effort to be focused only on transexuals. Maybe you should see someone about your obsession?