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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Weird how she decides to write about America's presence there in isolation of all other factors.

I can't read Caitlin's mind, but I do read all her articles, and I imagine this is because there is a pervasive perception that Iran, Russian, and ISIS are 'bad guys' (which I agree with), while USA are the 'good guys' (not so much in agreement here). I think she wants to dispel the the idea that USA is acting with the moral high ground and hold them to the higher standards we supposedly have

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah that sounds really easy to do when you allow yourself to deceptively ignore all context and treat the matter in isolation.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah that sounds really easy to do when you allow yourself to deceptively ignore all context and treat the matter in isolation.

I don't think thats a fair critique. What Russia, Iran and ISIS did in Syria has nothing to do with whether or not it was morally acceptable that my own country invaded a sovereign nation, killed people, and claimed self-defense. My standards for the way my country ought to conduct itself on the world stage do not disappear when other countries act badly. "Hey it's OK the USA put japanese people in camps during WW2 becaue Hitler did it the jews too!!". No, that context of Hitler does not excuse that we put Japanese people in fucking prison camps. I can very well treat this in isolation and say it was wrong

I am actually more concenrned about my own countries conduct than the other nations, because I am a stakeholder in my nation. She didn't need to mention those countries in the article, because she isn't defending their conduct, she clearly thinks invading countries and killing people is a bad act. When you put the USA in the same category as Russia, Iran and ISIS, I don't see how you can argue that this is OK or a good thing

Honestly, I think you ought to examine whether or not you are reflexively defending the worst aspects of Western Imperialism and the Military Industrail Complex, because you seem to get very defensive about anything that is critical of it, even though I think you are a smart fellow that understands some of these problems

[–]Insider 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Site_rly_sux is an astroturf that's gonna keep perpetuating deep state lies. NATO's launched 326,000 bombs within 20 years, mostly from the US.

https://www.stopwar.org.uk/article/the-us-and-its-allies-have-dropped-46-bombs-per-day-for-the-past-20-years/

No other country comes close to that. Most US invasions and bombings are based on fake news that they manufacture.