Much of the world is ambivalent about the Ukraine war. Rightly so.

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[–]RedEyedWarrior 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Only European countries, and English speaking countries are mad at Putin.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Nope. Actually only most of their bobbleheads, MSM and Shills are, i suppose.

Most of their citizens surely ain't. Because i believe the can remember the US world bombing tour mostly, as can i.

[–]RedEyedWarrior 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I guess. In Ireland, our media and our institutions are hostile towards Russia. Half of Irish people have bought the propaganda hook line and sinker. But I’ve meet a few Irish people who are neutral and want the government to be neutral, which is the right thing to do.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I suppose, most of "western" media actually did reprogram some robots simulating being human.

But the majority of human residents in "western" countries won't fall for these cheap and forseeable tricks, i strongly believe.

[–]RedEyedWarrior 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Sadly, my parents, my sister and some of my coworkers have fallen for it. My dad especially, who compares Putin to Hitler. Granted, he’s a pro-America boomer, do he doesn’t see the provocations that America has done. My friend and I are neutral, but we both lack sympathy for Zelensky. A cousin of mine hates Putin and acknowledges that the war would never have happened had America and Britain not incentivised Zelensky to piss Putin off. He spoke to my dad on the matter and my dad has cooled off a bit, but he still sides with Zelensky and wants Putin punished.

Fortunately, everybody I know is against Ireland joining NATO.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It is indeed sad to hear when media actually can summon illusionary walls even between close human beings like family.

Surely Putin is waging a war that actually will cost more souls than it possibly can gain him in political weight geopolitcally-wise . But Zelensky is actually an jewish clown installed ontop of a mostly corrupt apparatus of fascists that for some parts at least was supported by the CIA through cloak-and-dagger tactics, i suppose.

The history of Russia with fascists plays a big role in this war, i assume.

Maybe, if you can find a more peaceful (like: more not so emotionally driven) approach of discussing these very complex geopolitical matters with your family that doesn't strain your relations to each other so hard, the air can cool down. At least a little bit.

From my experience it often is helpful to actually look together at both "views" (for Russia e.g. RT) of the media or ban these matters completely from family discussions.

To explicitly not incite these conflicts when a "common" point of view (the lowest denominator in the family, so to say) can't be found together.

[–]RedEyedWarrior 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I avoid discussions about the Ukraine war with my family. I just observe their comments and keep quiet. I have learned to hide my power levels over the years.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Friends can be the compensation for your own family, which you can not choose.

[–]RedEyedWarrior 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. I love my family and we get along very well. And we agree on a lot of political issues, just not that one. But I’m glad I have friends who we can discuss a lot of issues on.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I couldn't believe there actually are journalists in Isreal writing about this war what it actually is, until i saw this. A moment that made this night for me.