Founders Wanted You to Own an AR-15

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[–]jykylsin2034 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

No, they wanted us to own F-35s, M1A2 Abrams, Javelin missiles, Browning MGs

[–]adultmanhwa 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"for your safety"

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The founders wanted you to own hand grenades.

Hand grenades are bad ass.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

For those of you who think owning firearms would enable you to overthrow a corrupt government, think again. Owning firearms in 18th century is wildly different from owning (even) AR-15s today. In the 18th century, the government's muskets aren't so different from yours, and there was no bulletproof vests or armed fighting vehicles or missiles. In 2021, you got fighter jets, tanks, and drone technology that civilians do not have access to. Owning even AR-15s means very little in terms of trying to overthrow the government. It is completely unrealistic.

[–]Franklinville 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

What if I'm black, but an established tax paying U.S. citizen. Does this idea that the founders wanted me to own an AR-15 still apply??

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

hope not since statistically you commit most crimes with guns

[–]Franklinville 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You've wrong. I've never been charged and/or convicted of a crime involving a gun. Nice try you son of a founding father.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Yep.

[–]Franklinville 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Done.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Black folks account for a large percentage of soldiers.

The antifa mischief makers and some BLM individuals leadership positions (those who are admittedly "trained marxists"), are a concern, but if there was an AR in every household, then they would have had a much more difficult time looting black business (and others), etc.
These groups are intentionally destabilized major cities. I think they're being used to manufacture a civil war.
Soldiers are already in DC.

The real issue is the 0.1% ultra wealthy (transnational elite) vs. the 99% of the global population.
The 0.9% at the top are taking orders from the ultra wealthy. They are invested in the elite. These elite are funding antifa and the BLM marxists.

The same elite are promoting the cancel culture.
It's interfering with the possibility of an open and honest dialogue.
It's shutting down the possibility of practical solutions.

Racial injustice does exist, but it less severe than in the 2010's, or 00's, which was better than the 90's, 80's, and so on.

This is a distraction tactic. Divide (and cancel dialogue) and conquer.

The real crimes involve the wealthiest 0.1% who have rigged the global political system, and robbed the global 99% for decades (since the 70's).

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It is arguable. After all, Dred Scott maintained no Black person could not be a citizen... for reasons. So we might presume that some number of the Founding Fathers were thinking along those lines.

[–]Franklinville 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm willing to state that that's a fair assumption.

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Seriously, was there any legal basis at all for RBT's contention? Seems to me he was ignoring acres of established law.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't realize air rifles were so old.

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

To be fair, the Founders thought you should own people too.

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    [–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    Which monkeys are not people?

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      [–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      How remarkably old-fashioned.

      [–]Node 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      And they didn't even need the DNA evidence to reach that conclusion. They just believed their eyes and ears. 👨🏿‍🦱

      [–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      They also believed leeches would cure the vapors.

      [–]Node 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/04/03/598829579/watch-see-how-leeches-can-be-a-surgeons-sidekick

      Leeches fell into disrepute for awhile, but are now recognized as a valuable medical tool.

      In archaic usage, the vapours (or vapors) is a reference to certain mental, psychical, or physical states, such as hysteria, mania, clinical depression, bipolar disorder, lightheadedness, fainting, flush, withdrawal syndrome, mood swings, or PMS, where a sufferer lost mental focus.

      No information on the efficacy of leeches for any of these conditions. For the female hysteria, doctors finally just masturbated them back into their senses.

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        [–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        I do not believe you.

        [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        I do

        [–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

        To be fair, the Founders thought you should own people too.

        Good point. And those people were supposed to have AR's.

        [–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        In truth, no. There were acres of gun laws in 1776. Among those were laws prohibiting slaves from owning guns. The Founding Fathers were cool with that.

        The Bill of Rights in its entirety did not bind the states until about 1925. (The Supreme Court specifically ruled as late as Cruikshank that states were not bound by the Second Amendment.) So in 1800 the US government was chill with a state passing laws restricting the right bear arms.

        (The gunfight at the OK Coral was in 1888 and was over a local law that prohibited firearms in town. There were lots of gun laws in the Good Old Days.)