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‘You won’t need to abolish us – we won’t be around for it’: Why many police officers like me are quitting the force
submitted 3 years ago by [deleted] from rt.com
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[–]KennyLogins 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (1 child)
I guess what I'm wondering is whether or not people thing immunity needs to be removed completely. We basically have 3 potential levels:
I just don't see how 1 or 3 can work. I think the solution is to keep working on the qualifications under option 2. I'm no attorney, so I'm limited to what I can even start to suggest. But when I read other average people like myself who write about the topic, they seem to think option 3 can work. To me, option 1 is ridiculous and option 3 is easily gamed. Think about organization like Scientology who overwhelmed courts, option 3 lends to this very thing.
I'm out of my comfort zone here and don't have a solution myself. I just don't see how it can be option 3.
[–]FediNetizen 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
Qualified immunity isn't the only thing protecting cops, and removing qualified immunity wouldn't put us in #3, it'd be a version of #2.
Specifically, qualified immunity is for when a police officer did violate someone's rights, but didn't do so under "clearly established law". While that might sound reasonable on the surface, in practice, it creates cases like this, or cases like this
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